Reference grade streo audio setup for sale

oops..missed saying that Chennai buyers preferred

SO I have this reference grade stereo audio setup that I intend to sell because of a planned upgrade...

Sir,

REFERENCE is being sold;
What is to replace it ?
Can you share some information ?
Much appreciated.
Thanks

Sir,

How old is the gear ?

The Retail price of the 'set' is about US $'s 3,100/- or Rs. 125/- K
So depending on the age and use a price may be considered appropriate.

Thank You,

superczar schrieb:

if you have been planning to pick up a high end setup on a limited budget, this may just fit the bill...

well its not exactly a high end audio setup especially with regard to the speakers

but maybe a step up from the sony/philips et all Mini-Compos..

very interested in knowing what you are upgrading to..

Audophiles are a crazy species - they are not interested in what you are selling but what you are buying

So why don't you spill the beans

I am considering a couple of options and will surely spill the beans once i have found a buyer....

Though i really doubt if it will be much of an upgrade really
The lady wants a 5.1 system (eeks) and I have no choice but to comply
I really hate selling this, esp. the amp, but I cant retain it since it's an integrated stereo amp

The Retail price of the 'set' is about US $'s 3,100/- or Rs. 125/- K So depending on the age and use a price may be considered appropriate.

it's not really fair to compare the US street (post discount) prices in the US with prices in India...

dealers here sell at over 50-70% premium over US MSRPs

Also, There is a lot of effort and cost involved in getting bulky equipment here frm the US

Having said that, the price I have in mind is anyway considerably less than the US retail prices you quoted

If you are seriously interested, do drop me a PM with an idea of your expected price

well its not exactly a high end audio setup especially with regard to the speakers but maybe a step up from the sony/philips et all Mini-Compos..

It's a reference grade amp couple with a high grade speaker set

now having said that, ..a phase Tech is "maybe a step up from sony/philips compos"
I am speechless..what exactly are you playing at sir?

these are massive 40 Lb speakers (each) with an amazing frequency response ...

The Velocity is a critically acclaimed line, and the V12 are the highest grade speakers within the series

Here is a pic:


And please don't kick me for the speaker placement, this is an old pic when I had just moved into a new house , the speakers were new and weren't setup as yet

it's not really fair to compare the US street (post discount) prices in the US with prices in India... dealers here sell at over 50-70% premium over US MSRPs

True, I could not agree with you more !!

However, I have been trying to sell mid-fi gear on this forum @ 40 % [brand new] to 65 % [used] discount over international suggested retail prices and no takers.

But, since your gear is 'reference' grade & you suggest that you will 'substantially' mark down the prices, I am sure there are meny 'audiophiles' that will take you up on your offer.

All the best with your sale !!!

I love what 'doc' said.
Audiophile love to 'upgrade' and the interest is in what is purchased, not what is being sold !!!!
So correct.

superczar schrieb:

Here is a pic: And please don't kick me for the speaker placement, this is an old pic when I had just moved into a new house , the speakers were new and weren't setup as yet

Mac Mini as your music server;
Brilliant idea, I must say. Very smart indeed.
Music Server as your front end is where the world is going.
Way to go !!

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Mac Mini as your music server; Brilliant idea, I must say. Very smart indeed. Music Server as your front end is where the world is going. Way to go !! :hail

cool that you noticed that..i completely missed it. the fact that it has a digital out makes it a very good transport prospect.

superczar , are you using the Mac mini as the source or as a transport in the upgraded setup ?

please ignore my earlier remarks..i have never heard of these speakers before this and got them confused with the White Van speakers which were often discussed in AA.. I think those were called Phase Linear

Thanks for appreciating Bhagwan and Arj
The Mac Mini serves as a transport as well as source.

In addition to that, I upgraded from the onboard audio on the mini (which is quite a lot better than the onboard sound on regular PCs) to a external USB based audio DA converter (albeit a low end one---M-Audio audiophile)

Also, the Mac mini lacks HDD space (80GB only), so most of my music is loaded onto a pair of 500 GB Network server HDDs which I was able to get for fairly cheap which this setup seamlessly fetches from them

Unlike windows (with its cra&&y kernel mixer), OS X relies on core audio which enables providing a low latency pure output via the USB line...

Apple Core audio is trusted by a lot of budding and even semi-pro musicians (think GarageBand) and this setup sounds far better with the Mac as compared to say when I connect it to my windows laptop

please ignore my earlier remarks..i have never heard of these speakers before this and got them confused with the White Van speakers which were often discussed in AA.. I think those were called Phase Linear

Absolutely no offence taken

Even I had not heard of these speakers before I picked them ..but a couple of comparative auditions and some digging around on the net and I was sold on them..

How do I describe the SQ from these speakers? ummmm, let's say more crisp than warm

However, I have been trying to sell mid-fi gear on this forum @ 40 % [brand new] to 65 % [used] discount over international suggested retail prices and no takers.

Yes, I do have a substantial mark down in mind

In addition to that, I upgraded from the onboard audio on the mini to a external USB based audio DA converter (albeit a low end one---M-Audio audiophile)

Can you tell me recommend a specific product available in India ? An retail prices too, please ?

Unlike windows (with its cra&&y kernel mixer), OS X relies on core audio which enables providing a low latency pure output via the USB line...

Ah ! Windows Bashing, like all Mac 'faithfulls' do... often without knowing WINDOWS adequately .

The limitations U mention are NOT there in Vista ( same circa as the Mac X OS )

The windows native processing of audio can be disabled in older versions with a simple and small applet .....
Check the net...

Ah ! Windows Bashing, like all Mac 'faithfulls' do... often without knowing WINDOWS adequately . The limitations U mention are NOT there in Vista ( same circa as the Mac X OS ) The windows native processing of audio can be disabled in older versions with a simple and small applet ..... Check the net...

It's not as easy as you make it sound amp_nut.
I am a long time windows user, and am pretty much a power user

To enable ASIO (which is what you are referring to as the simple and small applet, you need an ASIO compatible sound card which don't really come cheap
Also, very few front ends (like foobar) support it

Can you tell me recommend a specific product available in India ? An retail prices too, please ?

I have seen a M-audio retailer in Ritchie street, chennai
But do not really know what the prices here are

you can try calling on the # atthis link perhaps:
http://www.m-audio.c...ional&is_maudio=1#IN

you need an ASIO compatible sound card which don't really come cheap

Does the MAC need a similar (ASIO compatible ) sound card ?

Which card are you using with yr MAC ? I guess its a 'stand alone' card ? Most stand alone cards are not cheap...

It's a stand-alone USB M-Audio Audiophile
It does support ASIO though there is no need for enabling ASIO in a Mac..

my subjective assessment of the SQ of the same track (CD/FLAC/high bit rate MP3) :

Mac with USB Audiophile > (perceptively better) Mac default audio out >>> ( several notches better ) Default audio output on my Windows laptop

1 option i have been thinking of is retaining the speakers, and selling only the amp ( ) to replace it with a 5.1 receiver

Then grab hold of two bookshelves and a sub to set them up along with the primary phase tech speakers thereby enabling me to retain the purity of plain stereo when needed and switching to 5.1 when the lady orders me to

But I wonder if it will be possible to match up the dynamics of the phase tech speakers with another line from another brand...

Any comments from the experts?

Personally, I feel that Rs 40K spent on a HT receiver, will yield FAR poorer Audiophile sound compared to your existing Amplification..

IMHO ofcourse !

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Personally, I feel that Rs 40K spent on a HT receiver, will yield FAR poorer Audiophile sound compared to your existing Amplification.. IMHO ofcourse !

Correct !!!

So I have finally decided I am retaining the existing AMp and speakers

I a getting a Polk Audio DSW Pro 600 and Polk Csi centers this weekend

The surrounds and receiver are yet to be decided upon

superczar schrieb:

So I have finally decided I am retaining the existing AMp and speakers I a getting a Polk Audio DSW Pro 600 and Polk Csi centers this weekend The surrounds and receiver are yet to be decided upon :)

Good Call !

No need to buy a Centre Speaker;
Save that money & buy a 'better' 'more powerful' AVR
Grey Market will offer nice chouces to you - specially in Chennai.

http://usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3510.asp

Buy a good - 12" sub too. Def Tec Super cube is another option to look into. Spend on a good sub - makes movis watching great fun.

http://www.definitiv...fers/subwoofers.html

You should be OK.

Cheers !!

why not buy the same brand as your fronts ? why polk ?

Bhagwan-ji I am planning to pick a Marantz 6001 as the AVR
Any comments or suggestions? (will connect the preout for the from to the PM-17 integrated)

Why not Phase Tech..Hmm, reason being the only Phase Tech dealer in Chennai is quoting obscene rates for the Sub and Center

The Polk DSW Pro 600 is a 12" and seems reasonably priced

As for the center, I auditioned a setup (KEF iQ9/Polk Csi A4 center/DSW Pro 600 - no surrounds) at ProFX in chennai

In plain 2 channel mode, the iQ9s had brilliant imaging...i Actually had to go touch the center speaker to make sure it was off


but when we switched to a movie, the vocals coming through the center made a big difference

For music , I anyway plan to run stereo mode all the time (obviously) but I felt a good center is imperative for movies