McCormack DNA 125

Wish there was a way to run them as monoblocks. I'd have taken your amp then. That aside good luck for the sale and hope you find a buyer.

Please do let us know what you are upgrading to.

Hi chaos,
You can always do a horizontal bi-amping. You will need lot more cables though.
Or you can invest in an electronic crossover and bypass the usher crossover. Much better results

Bobby, what are you upgrading to ?

Have two options in mind..
6 months used Plinius 9100 integrated..Or Brand New Naim nait 5i version 2.

Seeking expert opinions

Bobby

Hi Bobby,

If you are considering a new Naim Nait 5i, then also consider the Cyrus 8vs2.

Which city are you based in?

Regards
SNV

Bobby

The dna 125 is a fine amp. You are going for an integrated...so you would be giving up your pre too ? Or just use the power sections of the integrated ? What pre do you use ?

Manek

At the risk of sounding obtuse.... some questions for you to mull on (no reply needed) :

What are you looking for in your new amplification, that you missed in your existing setup ?

What did you particularly like in your old set up, that you would not like to give up in your new set up ?

If your speakers are adequately effficient... have you considered tubes ?

bonnybpl, unless you have checked out the speaker synergy part, you may be making a lateral movement rather than an upgrade..is that what is is supposed to be ?

bobbybpl schrieb:

Have two options in mind.. 6 months used Plinius 9100 integrated..Or Brand New Naim nait 5i version 2. Bobby

Sir,

None of the above......

Naim works best with Naim gear.
Plinius I never liked;
Sorry.

What are the other options ?

Deceide before you sell.
Not that McCormack was a great product, but as rightly mentioned, no side ways movement.....
Think of an upgrade - 20 % to 30 % improvement in sound at least......Else not worhth it.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

bobbybpl schrieb: Have two options in mind.. 6 months used Plinius 9100 integrated..Or Brand New Naim nait 5i version 2. Bobby Sir, None of the above...... Naim works best with Naim gear. Plinius I never liked; Sorry. What are the other options ? Deceide before you sell. Not that McCormack was a great product, but as rightly mentioned, no side ways movement..... Think of an upgrade - 20 % to 30 % improvement in sound at least......Else not worhth it. :Y

times 2..
don't know about Naim but agree about the Plinius.

If you are indeed looking for a huge upgrade, then look at the newer Class D based amplifiers with tube input bufers..I heard two such implementations and they were both fantastic..Luminance is another amplifier you should consider, so is pass labs

SNV schrieb:

If you are considering a new Naim Nait 5i, then also consider the Cyrus 8vs2. Which city are you based in?

I would consider cyrus 8vs2, I am in bhopal and hopefully in the coming week i'll visit mumbai for auditions, please let me know where to audition cyrus

Amp_Nut schrieb:

What are you looking for in your new amplification, that you missed in your existing setup ?

Just one word...INVOLVEMENT.

Manek schrieb:

so you would be giving up your pre too ? What pre do you use ? Manek

Manek, am using lyrita's pre to drive DNA and i would certainly give up pre too.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

None of the above...... Naim works best with Naim gear. Plinius I never liked; Sorry. What are the other options ? Deceide before you sell. Not that McCormack was a great product, but as rightly mentioned, no side ways movement..... Think of an upgrade - 20 % to 30 % improvement in sound at least......Else not worhth it. :Y

I totally agree with you, naim works best with naim gears and i am planning to go for the naim CDP too.I have listened to the combination at lakozy and was really impressed,How one can imagine listening to naim as it is just 50 watts ..fast and accurate with execellent tonality,can drive any modern floorstander with ease, however, am not sure about the speakers.
ATC would need higher watts to perform its best and again its very flat and neutral so i dont think i will be able to afford to have all the best recordings in stock.
Usher is the second choice,one of my friend here has booked Be 718 so by the end of this month i'll compare it with audiance 72 with my current electronics.

Savyasaachi schrieb:

If you are indeed looking for a huge upgrade, then look at the newer Class D based amplifiers with tube input bufers..I heard two such implementations and they were both fantastic..Luminance is another amplifier you should consider, so is pass labs

Who deals in Luminance and pass lab.

Luminance is sold factory direct...cehck out their store at audiogon.com

search for luminance

Pass labs - Singapore looks like the closest

There is an ATC INt Amp for sale in singapore..nothing like this if your speaker is an ATC.


http://www.hifi.com.sg/2ndhand/sview.asp?id=2707

audionote is a very reputed dealer and they can help out in reducing duty as well..

ATC would need higher watts to perform its best and again its very flat and neutral so i dont think i will be able to afford to have all the best recordings in stock.

I would not really worry about that ! although that could be true about any Hifi in that range, it all depends on what you look for in a system.

No involvement....

I have heard the dna125 a few times and once with my tube amp. It was involving to say the least :-)

I own virens amp(6sn7 with ez81 rectifier) and the one thing it is and that it has a nice musical flow and draws you into the music.

Looks like a synergy problem in your electronics chain.

If you do have a pair of headphones of 300ohms impedance or higher, plug them at the back of your cdp output with a headphone to rca adaptor(mx brand will do) and hear how it sounds. Then do the same with virens pre. If you like it upto here then the problem is in the rest.

Manek

Thanks for the suggestions friends,
Arj,
I'll surely look for ATC integrated

Manek,
I'll try to do whatever you have suggested and try to find out the culprit out of chain

Thanks

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Amp_Nut schrieb:

What are you looking for in your new amplification, that you missed in your existing setup ?

Just one word...INVOLVEMENT.


I totally agree with you, naim works best with naim gears and i am planning to go for the naim CDP too.I have listened to the combination at lakozy and was really impressed,How one can imagine listening to naim as it is just 50 watts ..fast and accurate with execellent tonality,can drive any modern floorstander with ease, however, am not sure about the speakers.


Mon Ami , you have just been bitten by the Naim Pace, Rhythm , Timing thingie... that's what it is. The Naim Design philosophy, as you well know, is all about that.As opposed to brands that believe in the Accuracy Philosophy. The Fender Strat might sound like a Ibanez, but who cares.Right.

BTW if you know somebody in Dubai or going there soon and will do you a favour; look at the new Naim Super Nait; 80W pc @ 8 ohms, on board DAC etc,etc retailing for AED 13,000 at Dubai Audio.

BTW I'm not sure whether the Ushers will work with them.
I have not heard the Ushers myself but I guessing as much from what I have read.

All the best anyway.

Cheers,
K

On the prat thingie.....krish your roksans are pretty good as well.

Wish someone would sell this brand at a decent price in india.

Manek

Are you talking about Roksan kandy ?
RK III is available at 60k

Yes the kandy's and the caspians. Where would you find the kandy's ?

Manek

Bobby

Just out of curiosity, what cdp/speakers do you use ?

Which tubes do you have in your lyrita pre ?

Manek

.....And bobby what genere's of music do you normally listen to ?

Manek

Krish schrieb:

[ you have just been bitten by the Naim Pace, Rhythm , Timing thingie... that's what it is. The Naim Design philosophy, as you well know, is all about that.As opposed to brands that believe in the Accuracy Philosophy. The Fender Strat might sound like a Ibanez, but who cares.Right.

Krish, I am not really very knowledgable on the PRaT thingie but from what i could read around the Flat Vs Round earth is more of an old debate now. and most of modern equipment (including Naim/LInn) try to get the soundstage, tonality as well as PRaT these days. would you agree with that ?

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Krish, I am not really very knowledgable on the PRaT thingie but from what i could read around the Flat Vs Round earth is more of an old debate now. and most of modern equipment (including Naim/LInn) try to get the soundstage, tonality as well as PRaT these days. would you agree with that ?[/quote]

Hey Arj,
It's been years since i heard Naim gear but a few days back I was speaking with a very dear friend o' mine who is a passionate Naim fan(and owner).He keeps auditioning the lastest Naim gear from time to time.

He says that while Naim has certainly improved upon things like sound stage, accuracy etc, the PRaT thingie is where they really excel.Pound for pound, you will certainly find Brands that are tonally more accurate.However when it comes to sheer involment ( again what I'm told and not what I know first hand ) Naim are a hard act to beat.

It fact it's that very word in bobbypl's post leads me to believe that this could be the primary cause for his dis-satisfaction with his current gear.

On paper the individual components in his system look fine, and yet he feels that he is missing something...


K