Umfrage
Proportion of spending on respective equipments
1. 30% amp, 40% speakers, 20% source , 10% cables (31.8 %, 7 Stimmen)
2. 50% amp, 30% speakers , 15% source , 5% cables (9.1 %, 2 Stimmen)
3. 25% amp, 35% speakers , 25% source , 15% cables (9.1 %, 2 Stimmen)
4. 30% amp, 50% speakers , 15% source , 5% cables (50 %, 11 Stimmen)
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Proportion of spending on respective equipments

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SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#1 erstellt: 03. Feb 2006, 13:27
Dear All,

Just to reiterate the excerpts form your shopping lists please poll which ratio would you prefer to direct your monies in future or already if spent and in what equipment.


[Beitrag von SUB_BOSS am 03. Feb 2006, 13:28 bearbeitet]
Savyasaachi
Inventar
#2 erstellt: 03. Feb 2006, 13:30
Would prefer to spend a bit more on the source..say about 25-30%..
aother30% on the amp..rest on speakers..and about 2.5% on cables
So in effect, my budget would be around 2 lacks for a decent mid fi.


[Beitrag von Savyasaachi am 03. Feb 2006, 13:31 bearbeitet]
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#3 erstellt: 03. Feb 2006, 13:34
So i guess benka you can vote for option 1..very close to your ratio...just 5%-7.5% appropriation from cables to source...so plz vote dudey
Savyasaachi
Inventar
#4 erstellt: 03. Feb 2006, 13:37

SUB_BOSS schrieb:
So i guess benka you can vote for option 1..very close to your ratio...just 5%-7.5% appropriation from cables to source...so plz vote dudey

already voted dude..but for the last option..can't bear to see 10% being spent on cables..although this is just an onine poll..and of course i have already done my spending.
square_wave
Inventar
#5 erstellt: 03. Feb 2006, 17:05
I like the first option. But the cables may comedown to 7 percent and probably add the extra money to the amp.
Arj
Inventar
#6 erstellt: 03. Feb 2006, 20:24
amps vs source is a tough call.. a lot depends on how well the speakers take to an amp..some do better with cheaper ones

speakers at least 40-50 % and cables are like salt ie " Add to taste"
Bob_Ludwig
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#7 erstellt: 04. Feb 2006, 20:28
Hi !

So far I see that option 4 has got the maximum votes, I would like to analyse this :-

30 % Amps
50 % Speakers
15 % Source
5 % Cables

Say we take an average Mid-Fi Set Up - Say 500 K for starters.

A] 150 K would be Amps
B] 250 K would be Speakers
C] 075 K would be CD Player [no analogue here]
D] 025 K Cables

You will need a Pre Amplifier & Power Amplifier for 150/- K
Difficult to get a good pre for that price.

Speakers @ 250/- K would be possible.

CD Player @ 75/0 K too would be possible.

02 sets of Interconnetcs + Speaker Cables + 02 Power Cables @ 25/- K seems like a very very difficuly task to accomplish.

Hence, B & C can be done;
However A & D are very very difficult get.

BOB

I would go with :-

A] 35 %
B] 35 %
C] 15 %
D] 10 %
E] 05 % [Rooms - Racks + Walls + Carpet + Rugs + Panels etc.]
Savyasaachi
Inventar
#8 erstellt: 04. Feb 2006, 20:36

Bob_Ludwig schrieb:

I would go with :-

A] 35 %
B] 35 %
C] 15 %
D] 10 %
E] 05 % [Rooms - Racks + Walls + Carpet + Rugs + Panels etc.]


whoq!.
i think u have it all wrong IMHO.
When u add rooms, racks and acoustics, i would not mind spending 10% on it.
in fact i would have a whole sepearete budget for the room acoustics.

if 25k is not enough for cables, then i think you need to reevaluate your budget.
my budget on cables would not exceed 10k..and that's streching it..


[Beitrag von Savyasaachi am 04. Feb 2006, 20:37 bearbeitet]
Arj
Inventar
#9 erstellt: 04. Feb 2006, 22:12
agree with sachi.. if the room comes into the budget and option, i would want at least 25% there..including a professional to help design it..
Bob_Ludwig
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#10 erstellt: 05. Feb 2006, 07:13
Room is the 'most' important element in the entire chain.
However, I am presuming that the room has already been addressed & a seperate budget has been allocated to do it up.

What I meant by the final 5 % [E] was for the final embelishments that the set up needs. Things like a good 'solid' rack + power lines [electric supply] + rugs & carpets etc.

I am not so sure if one can do a room up [at least in Bombay] for a budget that is to be shared with the money one spends on the audio gear......

I have an alternate suggestion, we should spend 5 % of the value of the real estate on which or in which the system is to be installed. Let me explain.

If we have a 200 sq. ft. room [small] or a 300 sq. ft. room [medium] and the same costs Rs. 20 K per sq. ft. + 35 % 'Built Up Load', a 300 sq. ft. listening room would have a price of Rs. 27/- K Per sq. ft. by [X] 300 = Rs. 8100 K or 81 Lacs is the cost price of your listening room [dedicated]. You would have to spend at least 5 % of this to do it up, i.e. 400/- K. This is for the flooring + walls + ceiling + furniture [listening chair] etc. etc.

So you guys see, audio is a very very expensive hobby, not for the audio gear that one buys, but the real extate one needs to listen to it in.

In this illustration I have cited the cost of a house [apartment / flat] in South Mumbai. Prices may vary from location to location.

Just to draw a parallell, like the sport of Billiards / Snooker. The 'old' word used to be that a Billiard / Snooker Table costs Rs. 300 K and people found it expensive, but I always said that the 'table' was rather cheap, it is the place where it has to be kept 'land cost' that will kill you !!!

Regards,

BOB

nimz
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#11 erstellt: 05. Feb 2006, 18:07
Dear Forum members...

me a newbie.. got into all this.. spend all my weekends auditioning speakrs and amps..irritate the sales guys..visit this webpage like i read my email..(once in 2 mins!!).. make family run wen I start abt audio gear and sadly faced with a resource crunch.

Now I need u experience ppl to tell me this..

I can invest in good spkrs or a good amp... but NOT both!!

so in setting up a music / HT system - which is more important - the speakers or the AVR /Amp????

Do keep ur comments coming.. more reason for me to visit these pages often
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#12 erstellt: 06. Feb 2006, 07:47

how well the speakers take to an amp..some do better with cheaper ones


Arj are you hinting at someone here....
square_wave
Inventar
#13 erstellt: 06. Feb 2006, 08:22

Arj schrieb:
amps vs source is a tough call.. a lot depends on how well the speakers take to an amp..some do better with cheaper ones

speakers at least 40-50 % and cables are like salt ie " Add to taste"


Once you know your stuff you can play around and get perfect synergy. Once you have reached that stage, these rules are just general guidelines. If you check out the setups of some real senior audiophiles, you generally find DIY stuff and components made by small niche players (usually they will be some of the best kept secrets in hi-fi) and these may not cost a bomb. But the key point is knowledge and experience.


[Beitrag von square_wave am 06. Feb 2006, 09:21 bearbeitet]
bhagwan69
Inventar
#14 erstellt: 06. Feb 2006, 08:28
5% amp, 40% speakers, 20% source , 10% cables (37.5 %, 6 Votes)
2. 50% amp, 30% speakers , 15% source , 5% cables (6.3 %, 1 Votes)
3. 25% amp, 35% speakers , 25% source , 15% cables (12.5 %, 2 Votes)
4. 30% amp, 50% speakers , 15% source , 5% cables (43.8 %, 7 Votes)

I would go with :-

35 Amplifier
35 Speakers
20 CD Player
10 Cables

BHGWAN69
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#15 erstellt: 06. Feb 2006, 08:29

Once you know your stuff you can play around and get perfect synergy. Once you have reached that stage, these rules are just general guidelines. If you check out the setups of some real senior audiophiles, you generally find DIY stuff which does not cost a bomb. But the key point is knowledge and experience.


very very true indeed..it's all a matter of synergy...and knowing your equpiment very well..I personally prefer get started with speakers with kind of voicing you love..look for peers who own your kinda speakers and look for what he's listening to and what has he mated it with..go hunting for an amp which again sounds good to you..yes only you and no neigbour reviews considered here and finally a good CDP and later with all due respects to Arj some salt to taste...as salty as you would prefer..yup I mean cables.
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