Transfer of my entire CD collection on to Hard Drive

Hi,

EAC or DB poweramp are the 2 popular 'bit-perfect' rippers. EAC is free, DB poweramp has to be bought, but its not expensive.

I found DB poweramp easier to use plus it automatically downloads Album art.

DB poweramp also uses Accuraterip. Accuraterip is an online database of CD rips against which your rip is compared. If your rip differs from the database or your particular CD is not present in the database (extremely rare), DB will do a secure rip (multiple passes) to get the best out of your CD.

I use DB poweramp and rip my CD's to FLAC lossless with 0 compression. I prefer FLAC to WAV as FLAC files can be easily tagged unlike Wav's. Using the ABX comparator in Foobar I have been unable to distinguish between the same track ripped in Wav or FLAC.

DB is also faster in my computer than EAC. Approx. 2-4 minutes per CD - for CD's without scratches, etc.

Links:
Accurate Rip: http://www.accuraterip.com/
DB Poweramp: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/
EAC: http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/

All the best.

I agree with MSB...
But though the Album Art is not much of a concern cause there are software that let you download them for you.....
I like EAC since you do get a LOG file created of the exact setting used while you rip.... for me that Log file is important ...
Also DB POWER AMP...is the fill it, shut it and forget it solution....
EAC is infinitely configurable... so much so that i have no clue what some of them settings really are.....
When I download of a file from a source I look for this LOG file which enables me to see if the ripper used the correct settings while ripping.... most of them use the wrong settings ....

I would go with the DB Power Amp as well....but the freaking LOG file is important to me...

MSB can confirm if this log file can be created.....
Look at this as well...
http://en.true-audio.com/


Regards

HP

Log files are possible in dbpoweramp. Here's an excerpt from another Forum since I personally dont use this feature.

"Its an option on the very bottom of the secure setting menu. Option button when not ripping, secure settings, scroll down to the bottom and specify path etc. If you need to re rip say after cleaning rather nicely it appends the new info rather then over writing"

I find no difference in the same files ripped using EAC or dbpower amp. This should specially be true using clean scratchless CD's as the real 'power' of the software comes into play when ripping dirty or scratched CD's as it has to extract and in some cases interpolate (configurable) data.

S-I-O, a timey topic. I am hoping to pick up some Gyan from Forum members. MSB1 has considerable practical experience on this topic, as well as herculepirate..

msb1 said :

DB poweramp also uses Accuraterip.

I think he implied this when using the word 'also' but just to state the fact .... EAC also provides Accuraterip.

I have had the good fortune of listening to HDD playback thru various software, and to my ears, each sounded different. It was like a comparison between different interconnects... all in the same performance categories, but each adding just a hint of their own flavour. I found Foobar 2000 to be the most neutral and open.. ( I am sure many will disagree with me, but this is IMHO )

Again regarding FLAC and WAV, I differ, I find WAV playback sounds just a touch better in all respects, compared to flac. Ofcourse you can easily convert from Flac to Wav BEFORE playback....

When playing FLAC, the PC is burdened with Extra processing on the fly, so probably my stand is techically justifiable


However, to me, the MOST Important FIRST decision that you will need to take, S-I-O, is whether you should rip to a disc image or to individual files...

This has Rarely been addressed adequately, and to me is PIVOTAL. IMHO, ripping individual songs / tracks is Butchering the CD . I feel this is even more relevant to Western Classical music buffs like you.

The playback software that you can use with Image files, may be somewhat restricted, so its best to take a Well informed decision on this count, before you start ripping ....

msb1 said :

I prefer FLAC to WAV as FLAC files can be easily tagged unlike Wav's.

I know practically Nothing about tagging. Can you please elaborate on the topic ?

Thanks

Amp_Nut schrieb:

[b]However, to me, the MOST Important FIRST decision that you will need to take, S-I-O, is whether you should rip to a disc image or to individual files... This has Rarely been addressed adequately, and to me is PIVOTAL. IMHO, ripping individual songs / tracks is Butchering the CDimages/smilies/insane.gif .

INteresting choice of words and i completely agree.. I made the mistake of breaking some up into indvidual tracks and painstakingly play around with the cue files to correct it as well
I prefer the complete album as 1 file.. but really have not found any difference across formats (Apple/Wav/Flac/Ape/Wv)
but..my USBconverters are distinctly enry level as well :(.

but if this is a common feeling, doing a batch coversion is not too much of a problem.


About EAC, i second AN. accuraterip is an option. what i really love about it is that you can keep a local copy of Freedb in your machine so no need of the internet for getting the album details..except for cover art.(maybe dbpower amp also has it)

The thing you lose by not ripping into files is the flexibility of handling them....This is a major drawback for me if I intend to create playlist with different tracks....
As I have not heard any difference in this approach and I don't intend to....
The same with FLAC and WAV .... I have more than 1.3 TB of music in FLAC and it would be 2.6 TB in WAV.... ???
This is a nightmare for storage .....
I suggest do a listening for flac and wav and if your ears hold good... go for flac.

Regards

HP.

Tagging is where you store data like the TRACK NAME and ALBUM NAME in a file.
This is the basic way to organize your music in a Music Organizer.....
This is not possible in WAV...
So you can imagine searching for a file in your Music without this functionality...
WAV has too many drawbacks for me to go with this option...

Regards

HP

Amp_Nut schrieb:

msb1 said : I prefer FLAC to WAV as FLAC files can be easily tagged unlike Wav's. I know practically Nothing about tagging. Can you please elaborate on the topic ? Thanks :hail

AN, Tagging is what you would be doing in Foobar today when you right click and choose track info.
the name/bitrate/genre/track no etc etc...allthe details you can save directly in the file itself.

Arj said:

AN, Tagging is what you would be doing in Foobar today when you right click and choose track info. the name/bitrate/genre/track no etc etc...allthe details you can save directly in the file itself.

So Foobar will not save this (right clicked add on info) if thefile is a Wav file ??


Herculepirate said:

The thing you lose by not ripping into files is the flexibility of handling them....This is a major drawback for me if I intend to create playlist with different tracks....

I am not sure I understand what you are referring to...

Even if you rip the entire CD as a single image file, and a cue sheet, you can CERTAINLY select individual songs / tracks from the CD to play stand alone or even add to a play list. The Album art too, will be tagged to all he songs, in one go ....

Amp_Nut schrieb:

So Foobar will not save this (right clicked add on info) if the file is a Wav file ??

hi AN..a far as i know Wav does not allow all the ID3 info to be saved into the file itself. it will pick it up from the Cue file thats all...

FLAC etc are able to do that only becaus they are encoded and compressed in a format that aloows ID3.

Hi MSB,

So, the first step is to "rip" in FLAC or WAV. Now, will any of these formats be suitable for any or majority of the "playback" softwares? It should not be the case that I painstaking archive or transfer and then "not" be able to use it as its not-compatible.

Secondly, I will need a "windows" based computer right? If needed, can this whole database be transferred or dumped on to a MAC PC? Is FLAC or WAV the same for Apple?

Please do forgive me... I am not a Techi in the correct sense.

i would suggest ripping into a FLAC/ALAC as it contains the ID3 metadata..you can always convert to wav if you want later.


file is the same in windows /Mac..no difference

Dear Ampnut and MSB,

I will be copying the "entire" CD at one go only, always. Does that mean that I will not be able to select the individual tracks to play? Will I need to hear it from start to finish compulsorily? Please confirm.

SWITCH-IT-ON schrieb:

Hi MSB, So, the first step is to "rip" in FLAC or WAV. Now, will any of these formats be suitable for any or majority of the "playback" softwares? It should not be the case that I painstaking archive or transfer and then "not" be able to use it as its not-compatible. Secondly, I will need a "windows" based computer right? If needed, can this whole database be transferred or dumped on to a MAC PC? Is FLAC or WAV the same for Apple? Please do forgive me... I am not a Techi in the correct sense.

No problem...

FLAC works on PC with 99% software.

Itunes does not support FLAC. If you have a MAC then you will need to use the expensive Amarra software which now supports FLAC, I believe to acheive the same sound quality as Foobar on PC. Itunes also does not support bit perfect ouput on its own so should be avoided.

Best is to use a PC with Foobar or Media Monkey. Rip your files to FLAC with 0 compression. Use DB poweramp which will RIP, Get Album information and tag & catalogue your files accordingly and will also get album art. You need to have the PC online while ripping for accurate rip and downloading of information/art to work.

Let me know if you need any help. All the best!

SWITCH-IT-ON schrieb:

Dear Ampnut and MSB, I will be copying the "entire" CD at one go only, always. Does that mean that I will not be able to select the individual tracks to play? Will I need to hear it from start to finish compulsorily? Please confirm.

Yes, you rip the entire CD but will be able to select the track you want listen to in your player software just as it would be a "normal" CD. Don't be shy! Just rip one CD and you will understand the whole concept in a minute.

BTW, there seems to be a free plugin for iTunes in order to playback FLAC format. Hence I forgot the name Google it and you will find it I guess.

SWITCH-IT-ON schrieb:

Dear Ampnut and MSB, I will be copying the "entire" CD at one go only, always. Does that mean that I will not be able to select the individual tracks to play? Will I need to hear it from start to finish compulsorily? Please confirm.

No worries.

You CAN hear/choose individual tracks. Provided you have the cue file with you

Tuga schrieb:

BTW, there seems to be a free plugin for iTunes in order to playback FLAC format. Hence I forgot the name Google it and you will find it I guess.

That only works on MAC and again Itunes will not output bit perfect.

Switch it on, download the trial version of dbpoweramp, insert CD and follow the instructions. You need to set all parameters once, such as directory, file naming scheme, format (flac, etc.). Once done, all future CD's will rip at the click of a button.

Try it and then post if you face any difficulties.

FYI under naming it shows (Save in Dynamic Artist Folder) If you click set in front of it.. a window opens.. I have the following there:

[IFCOMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],Various Artists[]\[album]\[track] [artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[artist] - [track][] - [title]

SWITCH-IT-ON schrieb:

Dear Ampnut and MSB, I will be copying the "entire" CD at one go only, always. Does that mean that I will not be able to select the individual tracks to play? Will I need to hear it from start to finish compulsorily? Please confirm.

If you rip it with a Cue file, younwill be able to do that easitly. the cue file contains the start/stop of each song and its name (just open it as a text file .... you can see)

Switch-It-On said :

Dear Ampnut and MSB, I will be copying the "entire" CD at one go only, always. Does that mean that I will not be able to select the individual tracks to play? Will I need to hear it from start to finish compulsorily? Please confirm.

Yes, as confirmed by so many others, you CAN play single tracks.

BTW ... Tuga, lovely to hear from someone on the German side of his Forum. Do post regularly here too !

MSB1 said :

Rip your files to FLAC with 0 compression.

Does this mean that FLAC files can be created with different levels of compression ?




Incidentally, WAV files were invented by Microsoft, as was HDCD... Interesting that this computer goliath has made contributions to audiophile tech !

S-I-O said :

So, the first step is to "rip" in FLAC or WAV. Now, will any of these formats be suitable for any or majority of the "playback" softwares? It should not be the case that I painstaking archive or transfer and then "not" be able to use it as its not-compatible.

Just a word of caution .... Some programs may not be able to accept single files, only a cue sheet and the entire image ( Qsonix), while others like iTunes can only accept individual songs, and not cue + image files, so take care before you jump in and rip a zillion CDs !

IMHO, a major deterent so far for HDD playback not becoming mainstream, is the lack of intutive user friendly software at a realistic price ( FPreferably Freeware ! ).

iTunes did make a good effort, but has not improved much in user friendliness over the past decade. The user is still acutely aware that he is using a computer, and not a music player.

IMHO QSINIX does a FAB job, but has its limitations....

It can only accept Cue + Image files, Not individual songs. ( I am not sure if the current version overcomes this limitation).

The software is bundled with a Huge amount of Hardware, including a Touch Screen ( a superb and essential element to making it user friendly).

The price is high. Still, when many here on the forum are willing to pay Rs 2 Lakhs on a CD player or DAC, I seriously think they are missing out on the QSONIX solution, which is sold officially in India..

For those who have not done so already, I would IMPLORE you to check out the QSONIX Demo and go to the "Drag & Drop Demo" tab.

Let me know what you think of it.

Sorry Amp Nut
I did not know the feature of choosing your tracks existed from two different cue files are loaded... I never tried it as well....
But when you are browsing your collection on your computer you will then have load it on to the player to see the tracks...?????? No way...

I think there is no point with zero compression in FLAC. The size of the file will reduce by 10% ????
"FLAC is a general-purpose audio format, not just a compressed WAVE file format. There's a subtle difference. WAVE is a complicated standard; many kinds of data besides audio data can be put in it. FLAC's purpose is not to reproduce a WAVE file, including all the non-audio data that is in it, it is to losslessly compress the audio."

Here is an awesome site for CUE Files if anyone has lost them...
http://www.regeert.nl/cuesheet/

Regards

HP

Hirculepirate said:

I did not know the feature of choosing your tracks existed from two different cue files are loaded... I never tried it as well.... But when you are browsing your collection on your computer you will then have load it on to the player to see the tracks...?????? No way..

In Foobar ( which I am familiar with ) you simply tell Foobar to add a folder ( which could be your entire HDD, with CDs ripped in their respective sub-folders ).

Foobar will find and catalog all the cue sheets, and resolve each individual track / song automatically. The processes takes a few minutes ( maybe upto an Hour for an enitre 1 TB HDD ). After that, you can search for any song or artist by simply typing in the name.... Its easy and Very straightforward to use. If you have the Front Cover pic of the albumn, as a jpg, called 'Front' in the respective CD's folder, Foobar will oblige and show you the albumn art when you select an albumn or even a particular song...

Hirculepirate, you are my GURU for web based content

I have Very often had problems with corrupted cue files, or simpoly wrong cue files downloaded ...

The site will prove invaluable to me.

Thanks !

Yes AmpNut....
I understand what you mean... I will try it...

Splitting into files is like chopping meat into different pieces and it tastes different than the whole meat...
I am not sure about it....

Also very few of Rock Pop and Jazz are single musical files except concept albums... They are OK for me
But I am not sure how classical music in continuation sounds when split into files....

Regards

HP

When using Foobar with cue files, the Image file, is Never chopped. Each track is simply cataloged by its start and stop points as indicated in the cue file...

Yes...
May be I understood the issue wrongly.....
I rip into files (various tracks)while you said you rip into 1 large file and use to playback using CUE sheet.
And you said that it does sound better with 1 file + cue sheet rather than having ripped in different files....

Well it may be your preference but for ease of handling I would go for separate tracks.....

Don't get me wrong... I am THE HERCULE PIRATE ... and I have seen your types (i mean your ripping choice)as well.... it aint wrong but different....
The topic creater gotta taste and choose....

Regards

HP

[quote]
Don't get me wrong... I am THE HERCULE PIRATE ...
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[quote]

And you said that it does sound better with 1 file + cue sheet rather than having ripped in different files....

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Just for the record, I did not say it sounded better. In principle they should sound the same.

Maybe it can even be argued that the cue + image will sound worse ! ... since a much larger ( typically 650 MB for a wav image file ) has to be handled to play even 1 song.

Anyone done a comparison ?

Sorry I misunderstood you ....

I dont see the advantage in using a cue file with the entire CD ripped into a single large file? It's basically the same thing but done in 2 ways.

In fact I had huge issues with it in Foobar with files being added multiple times, cue files pointing to the wrong audio file, etc. Either it was something I did wrong or some issue with cue files, but I ended up converting all to single files.

All mine are ripped to individual FLAC files and there cannot possibly be a difference in sound quality. Foobar plays gapless anyways. Use the ABX comparator in Foobar and you wont be able to differenciate.

AN: yes FLAC can be compressed in different levels from 0-6, I think. More compression means more processor cycles in decompressing.

HP: I dont need compression and I dont use FLAC for its space saving features. I use it for its tagging (metadata) advantage. So why compress and have my CPU work more if I dont need it? I feel the freer the CPU is, the less jitter would be introduced, specially when playing hi-rez files. I have actually stopped all unecessary services/processes in windows for this purpose.

You can also try out EASY CD/DVD Extractor....
But not a freeware....

I use this for BULK MP3 conversion.

Regards

HP

msb1 said:

I dont see the advantage in using a cue file with the entire CD ripped into a single large file? It's basically the same thing but done in 2 ways. In fact I had huge issues with it in Foobar with files being added multiple times, cue files pointing to the wrong audio file, etc. Either it was something I did wrong or some issue with cue files, but I ended up converting all to single files.

Your second point first ..... Yes, I too have had corrupted cue files when ripping. The best way to check this is to open the cue file, after its created, in Foobar, and check that it plays.




The Cue file is like the Index page of a book, and the image file is like the rest of the book.

Without the cue file, you can still read the book content, but you will not be able to find each chapter ( song / track ) quickly or easily.

Now you can tear the book up into individual chapters, and then tag all the info of the chapter separately. That is like re-creating the cue file info, as tags and embedding it in each FLAC file. In the book example, its like copying part of the Index page, and sticking it onto each torn out chapter.... ( as an embedded tag )

Now if you want to re-create a ripped CD ( for example to hear in your car, or give a friend, or simply play it back on your CD player ! ) :

1. Burn the Cue File + Image file ( a single click on the cue file will Burn as an image, no need to ensure songs are in the correct order, or enter Artist Name etc ) and you will have re-created a Bit perfect image of the original CD. In fact it can be argued that the burnt CD may even be better than the original! (if the original had scratches and you use EAC for an error free read )

Put this burnt CD in your computer and access the CD database, and it will identify it as the Original CD !

2. Alternately, if you burn the individual tagged songs ( making sure they are in the correct order, as the original CD ! ) the burning software will typically insert a 2 second fixed gap between songs, while burning the CD. This new burnt CD will Not be recognised by the CD Database, and if you have not jotted down the CD name and song names, while burning the CD, you (or yr friend to whom you have passed it on to ) wont be able to identify the CD.

The new CD will for all practical purposes be the same as a random Compilation of songs by you, and NOT recognisable as the original CD at all.....


Even worse, the 2 second ( you can usually change this to any other duration) fixed pause can be painful and destructive to Western Classical Music and albums such as those by Pink Floyd. I know what iTunes has done to "The Wall" when I play it back, it Completely kills the mood.
Playing back gapless is also lousy, as the intended gaps in the Original CD are what is required, not a series of merged tracks... IMHO ofcourse !


Both ripping methods - Individual tracks & Cue+Image files will take up the SAME space on a HDD, Except if you want to Cherry pick the Tracks when ripping a CD.

I always rip the complete CD, just in case I like a song later, which I dont currently like, or a friend tells me to listen to Song 5 on ABC CD and I dont kick myself that I threw it away ! HDD space is REALLY Cheap now. A Good ( Western Digital, for me, Seagates have all died on me ) 1TB external HDD costs about Rs 5K and will store approx 1500 CD in High Resolution ( 650 MB per CD average ). This yields a cost of Rs 3.33 per CD ( 3 CD for Rs 10 ). At this price point, I would rather not cherry pick songs from a CD, particularly if I am building up my library of music on HDD.

BTW ... Tuga, lovely to hear from someone on the German side of his Forum. Do post regularly here too !

Welcome! Thats what a Forum is for

BTW: Having said all the above that was said, did "SWITCH IT ON" actually rip a CD now?
Would you mind to post your experience after having explored basically the whole world of formats, players, standards and alternatives?

G aus Bkk

Amp_Nut schrieb:

The Cue file is like the Index page of a book, and the image file is like the rest of the book. Without the cue file, you can still read the book content, but you will not be able to find each chapter ( song / track ) quickly or easily.

AN, from what i know the Tagging in Flac/Ape actually means that the Cue file is Embedded in the main FLAC. hence you do not need the index to be a separate file. like a cd..the cd player knows where to look and which track to play.

so even if you open that FLAC/Ape file dieclty in foobar you still see the entire listing(vis a vis loading a cue sheet separately).

If you opne an untagged Ape/Flac in foobar is shhows up a ???. but if you go to utils and edit cue..you have the option of loading and embedding the cue file into the file..

Thanks, Arj. I did not know this.

When you rip individual songs in EAC ( after the CD has been identified by the database ) is all the relevant info AUTOMATICALLY embedded into each FLAC file ? It would be a HUGE pain to do it manually for each track !


Ofcourse, no matter what, if you burn together the series of individual tagged files, it will never be identified as the original CD, because the blank spaces between songs / tracks will be different.

I do not think EAC automatically supports this..it will generate a separate cue file. I usually rip a cd as 1 file and have edited some some to embed the cue..but that was manually....and I gave up on HDD and am waiting for the Pioneering spirits like Bhagwan, MSD and S-I-O master it and trickle down the knowledge

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Thanks, Arj. I did not know this. When you rip individual songs in EAC ( after the CD has been identified by the database ) is all the relevant info AUTOMATICALLY embedded into each FLAC file ? It would be a HUGE pain to do it manually for each track ! Ofcourse, no matter what, if you burn together the series of individual tagged files, it will never be identified as the original CD, because the blank spaces between songs / tracks will be different. :(

All Info will be embedded into the single song like Album, title, Interpret, etc. You can define this in the settings. The COver though is not part of it. That would work (I think) only through a plugin I guess.

Are there any solutions available out there which does not come with a DAC bundled along with it ?

I was looking at the Olive.
http://www.olive.us/products.html

It comes with a DAC

I am looking for something which will rip the cds to FLAC, store them and provide a friendly user interface and gives a USB out to used with an asynchronous USB DAC. I do not need an analogue out.

This can be achieved with a laptop. I am looking for a more robust solution.

You can try the Squeezebox Touch or similar Squeezeboxes from Logitech. They do have a DAC built in, but also have a optical/coax output you can feed into a DAC.
Well, but it has no USB output though... But a very nice device at a marvelous pricing

If you have the budget ...Qsonix

It Does have a built in DAC which is a PC Sound card. Just ignore it. Other than that, it will meet all your requirements... and more

Most are nothing more than overpriced Computers you are better of building an HTPC !

http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/HW/HD_players.html

These are the internals of a Meridian - Sooloos Source:One From left to right: switching power supply VIA Epia PC RME Hammerfall DSP 9632 PCI sound card Price €3,600.00 A silent PC combined with a high quality sound card or an outboard DAC will probably: equal or outperform most of these dedicated boxes in sound quality offers a better interface at a lower price.

Arj, I fully appreciate wnat you are saying.

However, for many buyers, seamless, user friendly integration is the key, rather than sound quality... just look back at the ipod or itunes.

IMHO, what is holding back HDD playback from becomming main-stay, is not a 32 bit x 192 K DAC, but a very user friendly device that does not require a computer geek to use it comfortably.

I feel the QSONIX and SOOLOOS are great contributors in the correct direction, but are priced so high that they are beyond what ordinary Joe is willing to pay, and then specialist groups such as Audiophile like us will nit pic it to death, and still not buy it.

Its a chicken and egg situation, that prevents these products from taking off...

Yeah, right. It´s all about usability and a nice interface. I have tried many devices, the Squeezebox Touch comes closest to what it should be in terms of usage.

Maybe one should put an Open Source device on the market, similar to the Popcorn Hour platform but for music. I am sure in no time the community would have a decent user interface

Well, until then let´s play with what we have...

G aus Bkk

Foobar has been open source for years, but is hardly the last word in user friendlyness or an instantly likeable interface ...

I understand...
Since I have been using Linux for a while and I understand that Foobar is one of the only players that are infinitely configurable.... That makes it a huge plus....
With support of a community you have the best media player avaialble.... Think about a function and some good man has made a plug in for it.
.... Not like shitty iTunes and apple which makes the most restricted software and products known to man....
with Apple and iTunes its like being in a CAGE...yes the cage is pretty but your still in a Cage.

Also I am more than happy with the default foobar interface...
yes You cannot see covert art and stuff...but hey ?

Regards

HP

I use all my software from this catalogue of freeware...

http://www.techsuppo...category-editors.htm

FYI.

Regards

HP

What we REALLY need is a decent underlying piece of hardware for the signal crunching part, then a open platform (LINUX based?!)for the community to play around...

HO said :

Think about a function and some good man has made a plug in for it.

I know that this is somewhat off to[ic, but anyone know of a Foobar Spectrum display that goes down to 10 Hz or 20 Hz ?

The standard spectrum display starts at 50 Hz.....

Dear MSB,

The DB poweramp website has this complete "ripping" solution.... "RipNAS". It looks very promising. Any views?

http://www.ripnas.com

SWITCH-IT-ON schrieb:

Dear MSB, The DB poweramp website has this complete "ripping" solution.... "RipNAS". It looks very promising. Any views? http://www.ripnas.com

Is it needed ?

SBFX has a box made, only for ripping.
Just borrow it.
Give it an internet connection & keep popping CD's into it. It rips auto with all name & details etc.

It is a free solution.....