sonodyne cinque 5.1

is it worthwhile to replace the front subs for sonus floor standers in future

my main purpose was music but i felt that cinque was a good package with avr. if so, what to do with the 2 subs,

I'M As Confused As You Are Dear Friend Please Relax For A While And Post This In Surround Section. .and your idea 'bout 2 subs is quite off track..Dear Manek can we have this post removed from here..ohh yeah how far were you able to save up for canasya's???if you are close to it then I have a reason to visit Mumbai...

hee hee...
i am very far away from buying canasya's,:-)

Manek.

SUB BOSS, i actually meant 2 satellites (left and right of cinque package).

btw, what are canasya's?

subsequent to my post i called up sonodyne to see whether sonus 2605 (22k) can be added on to the cinque 5.1 package by taking 3 sats and a pair of sonus. the guys there clarified that av receiver is ok, but better sub will be needed for sonus 2605. this better sub costs about 11k (the one in cinque package is about 8.5k). later he said that the the sub with cinque will be ok with the 2 way cheaper version of sonus floorstanders (these cost about 11k).

hence, if i get sonus 2605 with cinque package now, it adds up another 19k. the individual sats with cinque are about 1.5k each, so giving up 2 sats for a pair of sonus, will not make much difference. so, i will have to defer that purchase for about 2 years.

he said, sonodyne has no buy-back offer but may have in future. meanwhile, i will spend more on cd and dvd and make space for a sonus 2605 in future.

btw, what are canasya's?

it's stuff what dreams are made of..or rather off..

BTW it's surprising to see whay Sonodyne is not ready to take back your cinque package..how long has it been since you purchased?? it's ridiculous and in anothet 2 years time nobody would buy it form you for even 50% cost. Please ask them for 2605 flrs with better surrounds. By just adding 2065 won't bring your HT into life..you need similiar center channel as it does 60% of job during movies and yes a better sub.

Sub,
They are ready to take back the Cinique, and infact also replace the fronts with the Sonus and the sub with a better one but our friend koushik is worried about the budget constraints....

Anyway koushik, there is no point doubling your budget if you cant afford it right now, but remember that the smaller towers from sonodyne are not at all good, so if you go for towers then stick to the Sonus 2605 larger towers.
But yes, having two towers will almost complete your music setup. Later on you can upgrade whatever smaller components you want to.

thanks for replying abhi.pani.

its just that i have fixed the max limit at 30k for now. as per ur suggestion, i should go for sonus 2605 and av 300r now which will cost 40k (18k for avr and 22k for sonus). this will add 10k to my budget without any sub. hence, i have planned to go for cinque now, which gives a complete 5.1 with av 300r. i will replace the 2 front sats later.

apart from budget, sonus is tall at 3.5 ft. so i have to find a place for that also.

the other option is to go for bookshelves. any opinion on sonodyne bookshelves vis-a-vis cinque sats.

Kousik, Plz do give a complete review on ur experience with the Cinque package once it is assembled in ur home.

also the sonodyne sayz that "professional sound engineers" wud come home and help in assembling the entire system. do they actually help in the correct placement of the speakers?

juggy_25 schrieb:

Kousik, Plz do give a complete review on ur experience with the Cinque package once it is assembled in ur home. also the sonodyne sayz that "professional sound engineers" wud come home and help in assembling the entire system. do they actually help in the correct placement of the speakers?

juggy, i will post my opinion. and yes, they sent a sound engineer to my place to advice on speaker placement and wiring on tuesday. i went to buy the wires on wednesday, i called up the engineer on his cell, he gave the specifications to the shopkeeper. he was really polite when i requested him to speak to the shopkeeper. and on friday, they will send another or same engineer to setup the system.

really satisfied with the service upto now. definitely something other retailers can emulate.

sounds excellent.

What type of wires did u buy? (what gauge)
did u buy the Video cable and the Coaxial Audio Cables too? (or does it come with the Cinque package)

which TV do u have? does the engineer even recommend the type of TV and the connections to go for?

i am planning to go for the Sonodyne Genie-2s and the AV300R and a Velodyne (VX-10)sub.
Hope the engineer helps in 'sync'ing the Velodyne with the Sonodyne (though the sub is of a different brand)

juggy_25 schrieb:

sounds excellent. What type of wires did u buy? (what gauge) did u buy the Video cable and the Coaxial Audio Cables too? (or does it come with the Cinque package) which TV do u have? does the engineer even recommend the type of TV and the connections to go for? i am planning to go for the Sonodyne Genie-2s and the AV300R and a Velodyne (VX-10)sub. Hope the engineer helps in 'sync'ing the Velodyne with the Sonodyne (though the sub is of a different brand)

the type of wires for speakers recommended were mundane 40x36 2 core tin-copper wire (rs.12 a metre). 3 metre wire comes with each speaker, but i needed more. i have a sony wega 21" and a thomson scenium 29". will connect now to the sony. they did not recommend any tv. they are not experts in tv and i had 2 already.

going by their service, i am sure they will advise on velodyne. but they did mention that free installation was for full ht packages.

Koushik,
One important thing, if you are paying by cash then they should offer you some discount. The showroom guys here at Bangalore are offering 10% if you pay by cash upfront.

Else you can go for 0% EMI scheme (genuine 0%) for 12 months, in that case they wont offer you the discount though as they say that the intrest is being absorbed by Sonodyne themselves.

Dont let this go......It can save you upto 3000 bucks.

they r not giving any cash discount in kolkata atleast (clarified this with sonodyne after reading this forum). however, for 24 months emi at simple interest rate is about 9.5%. also, if i get individual components excluding dvd it will cost about 33500. hence, with the package i am saving 3500 + a dvd.

They are freely giving a discount of upto 10% here in Blore (depending on your bargaining power) on all the packages.
They are also offering 0% for 12 months (check if they have it there)..
If they are giving a DVD player then its ok...which DVD player are they giving BTW ?

abhi.pani, they r giving lg dvd. not sure which model.

my first impressions on cinque:
1) audio from cd, tape is better on stereo rather than prologic 2
2) there is a small and big speaker mode on av receiver,in small speaker mode, all frequencies lower than 100 Hz is player only on the sub
3) there are 4 dsp modes - theater, hall, live, chorus - theater seems best for my room - these dsp modes plays all 5.1 instead in 2.1 even in stereo
4) reception from fm stereo is very good, very near cd quality

sounds good kousik.
did u assemble the 5.1 system in your home?
Howz the speakers and the 5.1 separation?
howz the sub? hope its not too boomy.

and will the Cinque do justice in a room 200-250 square feet?

juggy_25 schrieb:

sounds good kousik. did u assemble the 5.1 system in your home? Howz the speakers and the 5.1 separation? howz the sub? hope its not too boomy. and will the Cinque do justice in a room 200-250 square feet?

the 5.1 speakers and av receiver were installed by Sonodyne. i had to get the wiring done. they drilled the walls to setup the speakers. the speakers have been installed in a 12x13 room. all 4 have been put at 7 ft height and centre is on top of tv. the speakers are equidistant from tv. the first film i saw was star trek - nemesis (original) and the scenes with gunshots were very real.

i have till now played some tapes and mostly fm. the sound is very sweet, the bass is not overpowering even in hindi film songs, which sometimes give a boomy bass. but the bass is really balanced with the sats, i don't really know its there unless i turn it off.

there is no distortion at high volumes, i have gone upto 65 db only.

my room is about 150 sq ft and i am satisfied wth stereo output. sonodyne will be the best people to ask, if it will suit a 250 sq ft room.

thanx for the review kousik.

just a doubt, u said the speakers are placed at 7-feet height. was that suggested by the Sonodyne folks?

coz as per what i have read in the net, the speakers shud be at ear-level for best sound.
did they say any reason why they placed it at that height?? just curious

besides, i was planning to get stands for all the four sats. so that I can move it around when required, and the height wud be at ear level.

juggy_25 schrieb:

thanx for the review kousik. just a doubt, u said the speakers are placed at 7-feet height. was that suggested by the Sonodyne folks? coz as per what i have read in the net, the speakers shud be at ear-level for best sound. did they say any reason why they placed it at that height?? just curious

juggy_25, u r correct on theory. but, there are some windows and a door at that level in my room. they placed the speakers in 4 corners of the room. my tv is not at normal level, it is on a wallmount and the centre is on it. so the sats at that level match the height of the centre.

need to mention something on the subwoofer of cinque package:

the sub shuts off automtically after some time if there is no signal and powers back on (green light indicator) when there is signal. didn't know this and thought the sub was defective when i called up sonodyne. they explained it.

does the sonodyne 5.1 come with the subwoofer connection cable, the coaxial cable, and the video connects??
or shud we have to buy them separately?

juggy_25 schrieb:

does the sonodyne 5.1 come with the subwoofer connection cable, the coaxial cable, and the video connects?? or shud we have to buy them separately?

The cinque package comes with speaker cables only (including for subwoofer which is part of the package). The video connects are not there, but they are normally given with any DVD player bought.

Hi Kousik, howz ur experince with the Cinque package? Howz the sound quality and 5.1 movie experience?

juggy_25 schrieb:

Hi Kousik, howz ur experince with the Cinque package? Howz the sound quality and 5.1 movie experience?

The package is great. I can listen to it without ear fatigue for hours. I saw Lord of The Rings on 5.1 and it was great especially the scenes of Gandalf fighting monster. I have got a costly hobby now, buying DVD of Live English performances in 5.1. The experience is much better than CDs.

But I did not listen to any other true hi fi and can compare it against Sony and Aiwa only like Sony AZ 5D and SOny MHC GNV 111D. All the Sony systems sounded elaborate to me and boomy bass. Sonodyne is much clearer even on high bass. There is no distortion at 40 - 60 dB. The most I could try was 65 dB and the max is 80dB on AV300R.

I am not using the free LG DVD that came with the package but using Philips DVP642k which is region free and comes with preset equalizer options - this helps when playing Live performance DVDs. The inbuilt DSP in AV Receiver are not good and gives me ear fatigue.

Conclusion: As expected

sounds excellent.

So, the 5.1 separation is excellent and the AVR300 gives quality sound without distortion, right? Thats all I wanted.

I stay in an apartment, so I dont blast the muzik in full volume. U said u tried till 65dB without distortion. Is that pretty high?

U said the DSP modes gives ear fatigue.....why is that?? Did you find it necessary to use the DSP modes anytime?