Make Cat-5 with Belden 1701A

Hi Siva,

This is GODSENT !

I have been looking for this cable for AGES.

The bonded pairs ensures that the twist between the conductor pairs is retained at all times, and the Twist plays a key role in the performance of the cable.

I will estimate the quantity that I need.... If memory serves me correct, I need Nine times the length for the TNT cable ?

Will also buy for making Interconnects.

Will PM you shortly. Hope you can despatch to Mumbai without too much freight !

Cheers

We regularly ship via reliable couriers to places like Mumbai and Delhi. I'm not aware of variour shipping options and cost.

But if you can email your total requirement to info@corrson.com ... someone will respond immediately with all the detail including cost for shipping.

Can i suggest that you take Chris's approach ... than what is recommended in TNT. It gives better result.

For a 8 feet pair of speaker cable...you will require about 168 feet of this cable.

Regards
Siva.

Hi Siva,

Great to hear from someone who has tried Both... the TNT & Chri's config.

Which one of the TNT speaker cables did you try ?

Also any similar advice for CAT-5 interconnects ?

Errr.....super noob question coming up

The only cat5 cable I know of is used to connect computers together. Is this the same or some different cat5?

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Hi Siva, Great to hear from someone who has tried Both... the TNT & Chri's config. Which one of the TNT speaker cables did you try ? Also any similar advice for CAT-5 interconnects ?

It was the triple T. An alternative would be to make the same cable after stripping the external sleeve....that might give an advantage...i think !!.

For interconnect...you can take just one pair of bonded cables. You can also try by braiding together 2 or 3 pairs. I have not tried this so far..

Regards
Siva.

zhopudey schrieb:

Errr.....super noob question coming up The only cat5 cable I know of is used to connect computers together. Is this the same or some different cat5?

Yes; But a specific grade. This particular cable is almost 3 times more expensive that what is commonly availble in the market...and not generally available. The Belden distributor had to get this from Singapore...

Where do I go..
A week back I started this project to build a CAT5 based Speaker cable with Chris VenHaus recipe. I contacted Belden (Bangalore) they didnt have the teflon coated 1585A in stock hence I went ahead with 1583A (PVC coated). I always wished I could find the 1585A (Teflon coated) for my project. Now the project is 25% done...I see this thread from Siva...Where do I go..

That's going to be a hell a lot of PVC in your end-product. Infact more PVC than copper !!!

....not a very good idea Abhi.

You can still save 75% of work ...considering how much of effort it really is..

Regards
Siva.

Ya..
But what about the money spent ?? I paid 20 bucks per meter.
Now do I throw away that money or continue or...some thing else

Ya.. But what about the money spent ?? I paid 20 bucks per meter. Now do I throw away that money or continue or...some thing else

Don't get disheartnede friend return back to dealer.. if he doesn't then you could possily complete your project.

May be I can try that.
But most probably he wont as he has cut 20 mtr piece from the spool for me...what will he do with it if I return ? ..But still I will try.

Abhi, No doubt you 've to use Belden cat-5 with teflon quoting. Still, you proceed with your project. It's new to you & it's learning process & the investment is not that big to worry about. Brading is the trick of your project & it's not that easy to carry on. Pl see that, all the knots are reasonably tight & equidistant.

Later you can plan for with teflon coated. This braiding reduces the cable's indcutance to a max level. Since my cat-5 worked well in your system (they are not even Belden, just ordinary cat-5) teflon coated cables should do much much better in your system. You can buy the cable from Siva & keep it, it may not be available in retail.

it should 've been teflon coated/insulated, Abhi sorry for the spel mistake.

Just for clarification, based on multiple request that we received.

This is NOT a regular item for sale from Corrson...

I had bought couple of rolls (since the distributor refused to import smaller quantities) for personal use. Thanks to the good response from this ad....only about 600 feet is left(Sufficient for about 3 pairs of speaker cable)

It is available only on First come basis..

Regards
Siva.

Abhi,

I would like to bring one point to your attention.

All CAT 5 cables have some kind of Poly Ethlene insulation for induvidual conductors, some may use XLPE, Flurinated PE (that is what we call teflon which is not true). The outer sheath is mostly PVC. The Flurinated PE is used for conductor insulation to provide better fire extinguishing property. This Flurinated PE insulation is not at all comparable to real Teflon insulation as far as electrical properties are concerned.

Flurinated PE is also used in majority of so called highend cables and marketed as Teflon insulation.

So don't worry much about the PE insulated belden you have wih you, go ahead, I am sure you will end up with a good pair of cables. I have tried three types, oridnary CAT5 (Rs6/m), belden CAT5(Rs19/m) and belden 1701A(Rs.60/m).
There was a clear difference between ordinary CAT5 and beldens, but I couldnt hear any difference between Beldens.

All three were disposed off and am using a cheap QED Silver BiWire in single wire format now

Ani,
Thanks for the clarification, it has really inspired me.
BTW, can I ask why did you dump your Belden CAT5 and go for QED ? Did you find any clear negative aspects about Belden CAT5 based cables ?

My experience is different Ani. I thought the same initially...until i tried the 1701A. It gave a signigicant improvement over the 1583A...especially the highs.

However, i'm not sure whether the difference is solely due to insultation material. It could also be due to the fact these are bonded cable and hence the uniformity of the braiding could have helped...my two cents !!

Regards
Siva.