Bass & Treble in Stereo

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SUNILYO
Stammgast
#1 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 11:47
Hi all

One of my friends was telling me that in stereo one spkr gives the bass part and the other spkr gives out the treble part.

is it true ?? or does it depend upon the recording ?

The only thing i know about stereo is the sound is recorded in two discrete channels and while playing the same thing happens, sound is output from two discrete channels - left and right?

is it something more to this theory?

may be amp_nut could help in this.
Shahrukh
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#2 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:00

SUNILYO schrieb:
Hi all

One of my friends was telling me that in stereo one spkr gives the bass part and the other spkr gives out the treble part.



He probably was referring to the drivers, Sunil. You know... a two-way speaker - where the crossover sends hi freq signals (treble) to the tweeter and mid/low freqs (bass) to the woofer(s). In a 3 way you'd have a dedicated driver for mids too.

I'm guessing that's what he meant.
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#3 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:09
Dear Shahrukh,

I have the Sonus 2605 which is a 3-way speaker. What is actually happening is the bass output from the right channel is more than the left one and the treble output in the left channel is more than the right one.

This might be becoz presently it is connected to a local amp. i am using by Onida DVD player to play my audio CDs.

now tell me is it due to the amp or the dvd player.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#4 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:21
My initial guess would be the amp.

However, I suggest you try them out with another amp, if possible, and see what happens.

If they sound ok, it's your amp. If the same problem occurs, your speakers have a glitch. Have them changed ASAP!
abhi.pani
Inventar
#5 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:23
I know about this problem..........its totally the amp...thats the culprit...in local crappy amps the sound is like that (One channel bass and other one treble) but any decent amp will actually give you proper sound with proper balance of bass and treble from both speakers. Go for a good amp buddy
Shahrukh
Inventar
#6 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:23
The above is assuming you have all your connections correct of course. Check the connections FIRST!
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#7 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:27
I have gone thru all the connections and as far as i know all of them are in the right places.

So i think it IS the amp which is doing the job. So all i can do at this point is wait till next month till i buy my new amp.

Because before buying them it was auditioned with a Yamaha stereo amp which did not give any problems and sound good.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#8 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:30
I'd avoid using the speakers with the current amp, if I were you. BTW, which amp is this and how old is it?
Manek
Inventar
#9 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:34
are the speakers wired in the correct manner ? + to + and - to - ?
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#10 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:40

Shahrukh schrieb:
I'd avoid using the speakers with the current amp, if I were you. BTW, which amp is this and how old is it?


Yes I know. but i really wanted to listen to them at my house and i couldnt wait till the new amp. But i listen to them at moderate volumes so that the amp does not create any problems.
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#11 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:41

Manek schrieb:
are the speakers wired in the correct manner ? + to + and - to - ?


everything is in proper place.
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#12 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 12:55
SUNILYO

1. Flip your left & Right speaker connections at the amplifier.

Has the effect also swapped channels ?

If yes, your amp is a lemon.

2. If no, its probably your room acoustics.... if one speaker is deep in a corner, and the other is not, the corner speaker will have more bass.

3. Playing the devil's advocate ..... MAYBE.... JUST MAYBE your new speakers are faulty ?

Just to be 100% sure, run them on a known good amp, borrowed from a friend or the show room...
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#13 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 13:14
I will try this one today and see what are the results.

There is one more i would like to ask.

The sonus have bipole connections what are they, how does it affect sound and how do i use them.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#14 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 13:31
You mean 'biwire' connections. As far as i know, the 2605 isn't a bipole speaker.
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#15 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 13:41
Yes that right.

It says 'biwiring' and 'biamping' ready. What does that mean?
square_wave
Inventar
#16 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 13:47
Your speaker is bi-wirable. You have to have two runs of speaker wire in each direction and connect them separately to the highs and lows terminals. I suggest you don’t bother with that now. Bi-wiring makes a slight difference when you have a fully optimized system. Spend your money else where now. A decent integrated amp, good speaker wires, an entry level cd player and decent interconnect etcc… when you have done all this, do a bi-wire.
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#17 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 14:05
SUNILYO

If your speakers are Bi-wireable, EACH Speaker enclosure ( Left & Right) will have 2 red terminals and 2 Black terminals, at the back.

Check that,

1. at the speaker itself, the two REDS are connected to each other, and the 2 Blacks are connected to each other.

2. From the amplifier, The Left Channel Red should go to the 2 RED Terminals at the Left speaker rear. ( These 2 terminals should be connected )

Ditto for the Black wire from the Left Channel amp to the same speaker box.

I suspect, that the 2 Reds and the 2 Black are not connected, at the rear of the speaker. That could be the reason why one plays High Freq ( only) and the other Low Freq Only !

Do revert


[Beitrag von Amp_Nut am 14. Jul 2006, 14:07 bearbeitet]
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#18 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 14:11
There are indeed to 2 red and black terminals on each spkr. Both of them are connected by a bridge which came supplied with the speakers. the bridge is in form of a gold plated metal strip.

it might be possible the bridges are not set properly at either ends.

should i try to connect them using a copper wire ???
Jeeves
Stammgast
#19 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 14:29
Sunilyo, a question even if its silly...how many cds have you experienced this with. If its just one...!! it could be the recording!
Jeeves
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#20 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 14:45
No I haven't. but will try that too today.
Debu
Ist häufiger hier
#21 erstellt: 14. Jul 2006, 20:48

There are indeed to 2 red and black terminals on each spkr. Both of them are connected by a bridge which came supplied with the speakers. the bridge is in form of a gold plated metal strip.
it might be possible the bridges are not set properly at either ends.
should i try to connect them using a copper wire ???


Not a bad idea, pls try and let us know.

- Debu
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#22 erstellt: 15. Jul 2006, 11:19


There are indeed to 2 red and black terminals on each spkr. Both of them are connected by a bridge which came supplied with the speakers. the bridge is in form of a gold plated metal strip.
it might be possible the bridges are not set properly at either ends.
should i try to connect them using a copper wire ???



Just tightning the terminals so that the Gold plated bridge is held Firmly at Both end, would be fine.

Awaiting yr feedback !
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#23 erstellt: 17. Jul 2006, 14:18
Hi SUNILYO



Awaiting yr feedback !


Just a reminder... would love to have yr feedback....
SUNILYO
Stammgast
#24 erstellt: 17. Jul 2006, 14:30
Hi guys

I rechecked all the connections and found every thing to be tight and secure.

The problem is with the input connection of my lousy amp its loose. I interchanged the L/R connections and it worked. later when i switched on the amp again the same problem persisted and i had to repeat the steps again.
Amp_Nut
Inventar
#25 erstellt: 17. Jul 2006, 17:11
Thanks for the feedback, SUNILYO !

A stereo amp is really 2 identical amps in a single box. This can often be used to advantage, by swapping channels around, to eliminate or confirm that 1 channel of the amp, or some other stereo component is at fault...
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