Which speaker to pair Marantz PM17 + CD7300 - Decision made :)

Please mention your room size and music genres you listen to buddy.

room size will be around 10 by 12 (subject to change though),
Music choice - its the entire range from carnatic, classical, jazz to progressive metal (dream theater) with a good amount of chillout, drumnbass thrown in

bharathana schrieb:

room size will be around 10 by 12 (subject to change though), Music choice - its the entire range from carnatic, classical, jazz to progressive metal (dream theater) with a good amount of chillout, drumnbass thrown in

Unless you are going to a bigger room, I would rule out the Audience72. It needs at least 200 sqft to breathe.

I would suggest Arita or Proac.
Give Dynaudio 72 a clean slip as Dynes are no longer what they used to be earlier.

Proac all the way.. I have listened to them with various amplification, sources and overall very very compromised placement but still this sings very well. I just loved em.

I prefer the 110's to the 52 because the 110's are cleaner due to their far better construction. Besides from what ProAc's are known as great speakers they also have very good tonality and not too finicky about amplification.

LaScalaa schrieb:

Give Dynaudio 72 a clean slip as Dynes are no longer what they used to be earlier.

Ah lots of new members on the forum..
Good news for the forum

BTW LaScalaa, Which Dynes are you talking about ?
A72 is their entry level range, which other entry level Dyne you know off which beats the current range ??

Bhrathana,
I have two things to tell you:

1. You should have had the 52SE as well on the list because its in your budget range. Unless you have a bigger room A72 shouldnt be considered at all.

2. Since most of the speakers you have mentioned are available in Bangalore, I would suggest you take the pain of carrying your amp to the respective listening rooms and then decide, what you want. With the kind of amp you have and the kind of speakers you are looking at, mostly it will be the amp + speaker synergy which would matter more than the individual components IMO.

Music choice - its the entire range from carnatic, classical, jazz to progressive metal (dream theater) with a good amount of chillout, drumnbass thrown in

Better to look at some floor standers once for all. ProAcs are good, bit easy load on amp compared to Dyens. But, if your amp's drive is good, you may like Dynes. My observation, Dynes need high quality amplification. I doubt PM17 having that kind of muscles.

Dynes are no longer what they used to be earlier

Not only Dynes sir..any audio-gear, for that matter.
Always old is gold. Ash cannot beat Helen

I have not put any suggestion. all are good speakers and the only thing which can make one better than the other are your room and your ears.

looking at the room you might just prefer bookshelves and hence please lug around your amp + CDp and try out all speakers !!

I would suggest the proac Tabletter over the studio.

Proacs all the way sir if you can swing it.
For your small room the tablettes would be nice. This will sound more coherant than the a floorstander in your small room. I liked the older studio 125's too.

Aritas-for the range of your choice in music, they would rock!
ProAcs are v.good, but they have a bit of a laid back sound which may not go too well with some of your music genres.

hurricane_hojo schrieb:

Proacs all the way sir if you can swing it. For your small room the tablettes would be nice. This will sound more coherant than the a floorstander in your small room. I liked the older studio 125's too.

I haven't heard this particular model of the Proac , but coming from a diamond 8.4 you will almost surely love the Proac.

Bharathana Ji,
I am still tied up between Proac Studio-110 and Audience-52SE .

A72 is their entry level range, which other entry level Dyne you know off which beats the current range ??

I was talking about Audience 72 which you refer as A72 I'm I right sir?.

In fact I have heard Dynes from years and esp one particular model I heard in UK was not the usual ported ones and have'nt heard any other Dyne coming even close to that.

LaScalaa schrieb:

I would suggest Arita or Proac. Give Dynaudio 72 a clean slip as Dynes are no longer what they used to be earlier.

Sir LaScalaa, Sorry to ask you but for how long you been listening to Dynaudio

Hi bobby pppl I heard Dynaaudio first 9 years ago in UK.

Of the lot, the ProAc is probably the most versatile considering your taste spans the spectrum...

not quite sure if the Aritas would do justice to Dream Theater...though I could be way off since I've not heard them...coming from my experience with Martin Logans actually...but if ur taste is primarily classical and jazz, they could be great!

Yes have to now do the lugging around of the 15 kg amp to listen to the speakers. I will listen to them with the amp and start posting my views on it.
However if you want to let the cat amongst the pigeons and think there is another speaker that you deem best pairs with the marantz, sure thing, try me.
I am not able to modify the options on the poll to include "any other" option.

Abhi ji: Tell me what you think in terms of sound, the difference between 52 and 52 se?

Abhi ji: Tell me what you think in terms of sound, the difference between 52 and 52 se?

Wow what a question to pose Mr. Pani.. he would drool in his seat to answer this..

I doubt PM17 having that kind of muscles.

PM 17 has excellent drive and can drive dynes.( or atleast in bharatratna's room)

Ah lots of new members on the forum..

Looks like we have to charge for membership..

LaScalaa schrieb:

A72 is their entry level range, which other entry level Dyne you know off which beats the current range ?? I was talking about Audience 72 which you refer as A72 I'm I right sir?. In fact I have heard Dynes from years and esp one particular model I heard in UK was not the usual ported ones and have'nt heard any other Dyne coming even close to that.

Dear LaScalaa,
If I am not wrong we are speaking of price to performance speakers. Dynas have a long history of terrific speakers but is it fair comparing them to their afforable budget speakers ???? Using a Contour series speaker myself, I see their affordable Audience line-up as a very good entry to Dynes sound. Obviously there is a long way to go before you touch their heavy-engineered products but its a perfect example of trickle-down...shouldnt be compared directly to the original model carrying the technology IMO.

SUB_BOSS schrieb:

Abhi ji: Tell me what you think in terms of sound, the difference between 52 and 52 se? Wow what a question to pose Mr. Pani.. he would drool in his seat to answer this..

Bharatan Ji,
There is a significant difference between the two. Recently I heard the 52SE again and its definitely a step above the 52.
The mids, highs, bass, tonality, texture...everything has an improvement on 52SE.
Frankly, I didnt expect such a big improvement at all.

I know someone who owns it, I can take you to his place if you want.

PM 17 has excellent drive and can drive dynes.( or atleast in bharatratna's room)

Exactly, even I have heard them...excellent amp.
Dynes would happily sing with them.

I suppose its not the power but the tonality that you should be looking at as your amp can drive any of the speakers you have listed.

Assuming you dont have a budget problem I would go for the Studio 110 for your room for coherant sound, better still would be the Tabs and even better (for me) the Response One SC.
However I really like the Epos 5 and though I haven't heard the 12.2, I would suggest an audition. Epos are much cheaper than Proacs.

LaScalaa Wrote:

one particular model I heard in UK was not the usual ported ones

Non ported designs are a different league

Sealed boxes :-) brings back memories....happy ones.

Hello All

Good update - after a long gap (owing to travel, searching and some bad health) I have done it. I bought the Epos 12.2.
From my choices the last two were the Epos and the Proacs.
What tipped the decision was great / cracking quality of sound of the Epos at the price relative to my next best alternative. I truly love the way the Epos and Marantz PM17 play my Jonas Hellborg and Shawn Lane (personae). It is typically a bright acoustic guitar cd, which sounds brilliant and not hurting the ears with this combination. Am I happy
One quick question - would anyone know the reason why Epos 12.2 is recommended with its open frame stands as against the normal stand. I have both these stands and am evaluating. Need more time to come up with a conclusion, although the normal stands has a much better visual appeal than the open frame fellows (leave alone the time i spent to set it up - hmph).

Anyways there it is, now I have a fully functional orchestra / band / quartet etc etc playing at home. Guess what I left office early afternoon yesterday just to go back to my audio setup. Complete bliss!

Also thanks to everyone for all the suggestions and insights. I did trust my ears and also looked into my bank balance a bit before taking this decision.

Regards
The fine boy with the fine music setup

My understanding is that speakers are designed with keeping in midh as to how to deal with "vibrations" caused by drivers.

some like GMA/Norh are heavily damped such that there is none
Some Like Audionote/Harbeths are knowingly made with thin ply to vibrate along with the drivers.

similiarly some speakers do well with totally disipating the vibrations which is what I believe the open stands are best for.

some Speaker like JMR also have their own stand which ensures that the speaker and stnad are "matched" in resonance

go by the recommended stand if you want to hear the speakers as erp teh designer..of course nothing stops you from choosing another as long as your ears like it !

BTW congrats on the purchase..it is a very nice choice. I believe Jeeves was the one who recommended it ?

Spendor

Go & Listen - Then decide.

Mumbai - Fort - Demo Room / Audition possible.

clrmumbai@gmail.com

send a mail - take an appointment & go for a listen.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Spendor Go & Listen - Then decide. Mumbai - Fort - Demo Room / Audition possible. clrmumbai@gmail.com send a mail - take an appointment & go for a listen.

Bhagwan, was that for me. If yes, now a little too late. Like I said, now in the esctatic state of letting the epos sing to me.
They are a wonder without a shadow of doubt for the money.
Anyways I will try and get to the showroom and listen to spendor the next time I am in Mumbai.

Dear Bharathan,

Congrats. When shall I drop in to have an auditon?

Regards

congrats bharatana! am sure you're enjoying the music right now and hearing new things every time you sit down to listen. i second nietzsche's question. how bout having a forum meet at your place when the speakers have settled down?

regards

stevieboy schrieb:

congrats bharatana! am sure you're enjoying the music right now and hearing new things every time you sit down to listen. i second nietzsche's question. how bout having a forum meet at your place when the speakers have settled down? regards

Sure we should do that. Will have to be on weekends I am guessing and will let the epos run-in a bit too.