NAD C320BEE or HK670? NAD it is! Speakers?

I finally have my NAD C320BEE!! But i couldn't afford to buy new speakers at once so it still sounds bad. As expected.

I'm buying the B&W 309 at the end of the month. And new speaker cables of course. I'm thinking Ixos SW511T.

Hi,

Nad 320 bee is am amp which is pretty much neutral. It will feed out what it has been fed in. You must have very neutral speakers.

Do also take onto account the peripherals used like CD, Speakers,interconnects and speaker cables. Ofcourse the room conditions play a part too.

In the mean time use the treble nob to decrease the extra treble. Dont worry about using the amp without the source direct switch....hardly any difference between the source direct switch on and off.

The treble controls on the amp only affect the high tweeter frequencies and leave the mids alone so your mids will not suffer if you use the tone controls.

Hi manek,

I used the NAD 320BEE for quite some time (3 months ) before upgrading and found it more warm sounding that neutral...it did have a strong Bass response though...

Now the speakers are orderd. B&W DM309 it is! I couldn't affort to pay 50% more to get the better ones. These will do. The speakercable will still be Ixos SW511T I think.

And this is a pirate smiley:

enjoy your system centipod...need any more help let us know.

Congrats Centipod !
Enjoy them..you would of course need to wait for the breakin period..I believe it is 30-50 hours for BW isnt it ?

How are you planning to do it...in case interested there are some standard , No-Nuisance techniques for this !

Thanks! You have been really helpfull!
Cheers!

Breakin... I'm just gonna play them alot I guess.
I heard that you can switch + and - and place them infront of each other. I'm gonna check up on breakin methods during the delivery week. Or I could study! Nah!

Anyway, it can't sound worse than my current speakers eaven if they aren't broken in.

Exactly. Just cover it with a thick blanket and then play "Heavy" music pretty loud !

blanket's a good idea but I believe in breaking them in by playing them with normal music at normal levels and normal polarity and at their normal place. It may take longer but it will happen well. I also like to hear the minute differences as they break-in.

I think I'll just play them normaly to break them in. I'm in no hurry.

good thinking centipod....always the safest way.

manek.

My speakers have arrived at the post office.
But I can't bring them home until wednesday when i get my money.

Only four days delivery. Thats really fast.

dontcha worry.....4 days will pass in a jiffy....and you will be a proud owner of NAD/B&W combo.

3 CHEERS FOR CENTIPOD'S NEW AUDIO SYSTEM.....HIP HIP HURRAY !!! (3 times...I'm feel lazy to type it twice more).

Thanks!

Two days to go! And today is cable shopping day!

Alright........go for those cables buddy....

OK, I got the cables.

Now I have a few questions about biwiring.
Lets focus on the left speaker. To this speaker I now have two cables (1 and 2). Each cable is consists of two subcables (a and b). So totaly i have four cables:
1a and 1b (which sticks together)
2a and 2b (which also sticks togeter)

How should I connect these cables to the amp?
Cable 1a and 1b to + and cable 2a and 2b to -
or
Cable 1a and 2a to + and cable 1b and 2b to -

In other words:
Bass in cable 1 and treble in cable 2
or
Bass in cable 1a & 2a and treble in cable 1b & 2b?

I hope I got everyting right.
Does it matter how you connect the cables?

Btw, I'm using banana plugs at the amplifier end and bare cable at the speaker end. Theres two subcables on each banana plug (will be anyway).

Thanks!

Hi Centipod,
YOur speaker will have 4 Binding posts (else you will not be able to Biwire)

P N
| |
P N

Eg P and N are the Positive (Red) and Neutral (Black)

The "|" connecting the P's and the N's together are the Copper/Metallic shunts which connect them so that single wiring will provide connectivity to both terminals

To Bi wire.. (Using your terminology of 1a,1b & 2a 2b where the a's are RED and b's are Black

1. Remove the "|" s is the connectores. this can be done by loosening the Binding posts.
2. use the below Configuration

1a-P N- 1b

2a-P N - 2b

You can also try the following configurations to see which works best for you (Eg for me Single wiring gave a better imaging compared to Biwiring !)


1a-P N 1a- P N-1b P N
| | | | | |
P N-1b P N 1a-P N-1b

Each may give a different result

now i'm totally confused...I cant make head nor tail of this 1a 2b stuff.

the NAD320 bee has only one set of speaker terminals so the bi-wiring split has to be done at the speaker end.

Thanks!

That last stuff was a bit confusing.

1a-P N 1a- P N-1b P N | | | | | | P N-1b P N 1a-P N-1b

But thats ok! The first stuff was clear and answerd my question!


Manek:
I'm using two sets of cable to each speaker and instead of splitting the bass and treble signals at the speaker i split them at the amp.

I have to try myself if biwiring improves my sound. Everybody seems to disagree on the effects of biwiring.

Uh ! that Stuff looked OK whe I typed it...but all the spaces seem to have disappeared now ! ???
Anyway what I meant was in the Single Wiring mode you can connect it in three ways
1. Both Red and Balck ends on the top posts of the speaker
2. Both on the bottom end posts
3. Positive on the top red post and negetive on the bottom Black
I could not detect too much of a difference but in case of some folks, they emphasis on treble/Bass/uniform response can be affected this way

I guess I was a bit hasty n answering but appears you have got it right anyway !
If your Wire is thick you will have a problem stuffing it into the NAD binding post. I had Biwired my speakers with the NAD Amp ..I used the Bananas at the speaker end and used a spade (Smaller one...Bigger spades dont go in a NAD !) at the AMP end. I had managed to stuff 2 cables into the Spade !


As I mentioned earlier, with the NAD my system benefitted with Biwiring..but with the Sugden, single wiring with the Nordost seems to work the best !!!

yep....biwiring works sometimes...sometimes it doesnt...depends on how your speaker corssover is also made.

so all the best....try single wiring and bi-wiring and let me know the result.

ok..I didn't mean to startle you but what I meant by the last pos was that sometimes single wire sounds better than bi-wire.

I got my speakers! All I have to do now is to get them out of their boxes!

Hi Centipod..Congrats

I Know you are aware of this..but just to reinforce the thought do not go by the first sound that you hear from it . you will only get 90% of the sound after 50-100 hours and around 5-6 onths before the full potential of your speakers are felt./
Hence NO expensive tweaks for Muddy Bass and Sharp treble till they break in !!!!

Enjoy the breakin..

Arj is spot on again.....Patience is the key.....

Thanks!

I sounds better than my last system already. Detailed and alive. It's nice to know that it will only get better!