Head Fi - The cheaper option?

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Savyasaachi
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#1 erstellt: 30. Okt 2006, 03:20

Well not exactly.
Depends on the kind of sound you are looking for and of course..how 'audiophile' you want to get.

After parting with my setup back home, am stuck with only one choice.
Listening to MP3s(some FLAC and Wav) through my laptop.

As ever in the crazy world of audio, it can get really expensive even if you just want to listen to your music through a pair of headphones.

Being in the land of craziness and also the fountain head for audio, i had an option to go all out(well upto 150$s) on a headphone or go for a cheap cheap one.

While i did some 'research' on this and wondering how to spend judiciously, i came arcoss the Koss KSC75.
Now, don't get me wrond, these guys are 12.50 a pop and everywhere i went i read rave reviews about these guys.

Some even comparing these to the venerable Alessandro MS1!!!
Having heard Abhi's MS1(which i really really liked) and the Koss being touted as the portable version of the MS1and me being the audio enthusiast that i am , decided waht the hell!

ANd guess what!?..these babies are truly a class apart.
Money more than well spent.
I can't seem to get enough of these.
I remmeber the sound quality of the Ms1 and these are pretty darn close.
best of all there are quite a few mods available...so can't wait to get started on that.

However, it is not equal to the MS1 of course..but it sure is the best bang for buck.
heck i feel every one needs to have one of these!.
Highly recommended!

I just ordered an Archos Gmini(heard Junia's and was mighty impressed) for portable use.
use a sony MP3 player for jogging, but the Archos woudl be for some seriosu listening.

Buying speakers and amps is not an option right now..so am going the head-fi way...
and the options in this segment just surprised me completely..these guys are as serious(maybe even more so) tahn the regular audio enthusiasts..

Next time you stop at radioshack..make sure you pick these babies up and give them a good listen..

Already have plans of going for a Senn HD595(maybe a 650 durin chirtmas sale) with a portable amp for some serious listening.

Cheers,
Sachi

abhi.pani
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#2 erstellt: 30. Okt 2006, 06:46

Hey Sachi,
Good to see you back man...
Now that you are in US of A, you really have the edge of getting everything cheaper than you can ever think of.
Good to hear about Koss KSC-75...now you may have to bring half a dozen of them, when you are coming over

Regarding your Senn purchase...go straight for 650 buddy, 595 is pretty mediocre in sound relatively. Wait for the Sale if required.

Savyasaachi
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#3 erstellt: 30. Okt 2006, 10:32

abhi.pani schrieb:

Regarding your Senn purchase...go straight for 650 buddy, 595 is pretty mediocre in sound relatively. Wait for the Sale if required.

Good to be back buddy...
regarding listeing to music...well i do a lot of my listening live these days..
almost every week we have two bands playing at our university...
Two things these guys take very seriously...music and sports.

While the prospect of going for a 650 is alluring the portablity is an issue as most certainly i would need an amp and of course CDs and not MP3s to listen to.

So while the senns may have to wait a while will go in for an MS1 real soon(after checking out how the Koss do with the Gmini).
would appreciate if you could give me your thoughts on the MS1 since you've had them for a while now.
The Senn HD280 Pro is another option am looking at...also in contention are the in ear monitor buds from Etymotic , Ultimate Ears and Shure.

Sachi

abhi.pani
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#4 erstellt: 30. Okt 2006, 11:37

Looks like you are taking head-fi quite seriously these days...

Frankly I dont have any experience with In ear monitors...so cant help you there

Regarding MS-1...this is one terrific thing that you can do to yourself...

Whether you buy the Senns or not, these cans (MS-1) will always stand-out and keep you rocking everytime you put them on. Add a decent sound-card or a Portable head-amp (PA2V2 is real cool) and you are big time close to some serious-end hifi. Moreover they are quite portable compared to bigger senns so you can definitely carry them in journeys.
HD-280 Pro doesnt have the bass extension compared to MS-1. HD-280 Pro is more suitable to oldies, who dont want excitement but some flat music playing on their head.

Arj
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#5 erstellt: 30. Okt 2006, 12:15

hi sachi,

try to hear some of the Beyerdynamic headphones as well. they seem to give the "perception " of being thin in some forums, but I found them the most comfortable for my head and the sound was very nice (Warmish ??)

i forgot the model names as it was a couple of (y)ears ago

reignofchaos
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#6 erstellt: 30. Okt 2006, 15:26

Heehee my favorite topic... headphones :). Saachi look for HD600 or 650 or if you are low on budget then 580. 595 isn't as good as any of these. If you wanna go the grado way, then SR-225 is the way to go. 325 is not that special but the RS-2/RS-1 are heavenly. There are other choices too... the allessandros, the darth beyers :D(DT770 or DT880), AKG 500 and 700 series and the Audiotechnica A900. Since you are on the other side of the atlantic, you could potentially listen to all of them and then decide what sounds the best according to your tastes. Add a decent headamp (Gilmore Lite is great for cheap or look at the smaller headroom amps or since you are good at it, build one urself and save some money) and you are in business ;).

Savyasaachi
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#7 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 05:08

Arj schrieb:

I do have my eye on the Beyer Arj and as Reign ofchoas points out the Darth Beyer is a prime contender.

Buut for portability sake i guess i'll pitch in for an MS1 and by chritmas time go for the HD650 or the Beyer..

Savyasaachi
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#8 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 05:12

reignofchaos schrieb:

Wow..that's a lot of headphones to audition.
ahem..never thought i'd be saying that.
Thanks for the info Reignofchoas...
can you give me links for these headphones, reviews and comparison tests.
Also, the headphone amp needs to be really portable..
run of AA batteries preferably...or a rechargable 9V battery...should be capable of driving the Senn HD580/650.
Thanks.

Sachi

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Savyasaachi
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#9 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 05:14

abhi.pani schrieb:

Looks like you are taking head-fi quite seriously these days...

Frankly I dont have any experience with In ear monitors...so cant help you there

Regarding MS-1...this is one terrific thing that you can do to yourself...

Duly noted Abhi!.
Thanks.

Sachi

abhi.pani
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#10 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 08:07

reignofchaos schrieb:

Infact Beyers, AKG and Audio Technica are a huge contender to Sennheiser...If you want to invest in excess of $200, one should listen to all of them to decide. AKG is on the more expensive side though. Beyers and Audio Technica have a reputation of being Punchy as well as Detailed, but you have to select the right models. Put your question across to Head-fi.com and you definitely get an insight and then you can shortlist what to listen.
On the other hand Grado/MS-1 can be had for as low as $99 and more importantly you get the signature grado sound (with very little compromises) which is quite different from AKG, Senns, Beyers and ATH. For example, entry level Senns sound hardly anything compared to their higher end models and so on.

Infact there was a discussion in head-fi which said there was hardly any difference between MS-1 and MS-2...the difference was heard only when MS-1 was pitted against MS-Pro...so close is the Grado sound. There was also a discussion where MS-1 was directly compared to SR-225 and they were found to be almost in the same league but the price difference was more than double. All in all, IMO if you want to have a Grado, either stay with something like MS-1 or move to a totally different level with RS-1/2. Anything in between is only a marginal improvement with a huge difference in the expenditure.

Whereas with Senns, AKG and ATH its not that way, as you move up the ladder you do get relatively better sound. HD-580 being an exceptional case where you get Sennheiser Audiophile sound just at fraction of the cost.

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Amp_Nut
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#11 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 08:37

Hi Guys,

LOTS of detailed and interesting info in this thread.

Thanks !

Savyasaachi
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#12 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 09:42

abhi.pani schrieb:

Abhi all things said and done(including me having had the pleasure to listen to both the MS1(yours) and the Grado RS-1(Junia's) the only thing that keeps me from signing up for an MS1 right now is the fact that the pads don't seem as comfortable as the Senns..
or even for tat matter the RS1s..
I know there are a lot of upgrades for that too..but this is one of the main issues right now.

Also, i want to give my Koss a fillip by powering it with a headphone amp...
I want the headphone amp to have enough juice to power even the Senn HD650 or HD580 keeping in mind the upgrade bug.

Features am lookig for in an amp are(apart from 'stellar' sound quality)..

1>Highly portable(means, needs to be as small as possible)
2>Run off AA type batteries or 9 Volt rechargable types.
3>Extended hours of playback
4>Price needs to be reasonable
5>Modding capability???

SO any recommendations?

Sachi

abhi.pani
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#13 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 10:50

On the cheaper side, the only good portable amp I know of is PA2V2 (highly reccommended in Head-fi.com), price is around $60...good enough for any headphone including HD-650. There are others as well sounding better and costing much more e.g something from headroom...but I havent researched on that.
I only know of this budget amp. How much are you willing to spend on the amp ?

Arj
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#14 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 11:53

IMHO dont waste your money on portable amps (my very personal experience)..during travelling SQ difference may not really matter so much due to varying ambient noise. and the added bulk might just defeat the purpose of portability !
you did the good thing by going for the koss..

etys etc become a pain when jammed into the ear hence i find them rather "painful" for extended listening...the koss has good soft padding which is comfortable and provides enough noise reduction

i would suggest you put you money in a source+headphone amp something which can extend on to become a good source in your hifi as well in the futire.

would have been nice if the mp3player had a digi out tho..then you could have gone for the benchmark DAC1 or the Lavry which do both the DAC and the headphones very well.

the AQVOX at the same price range is a pretty good DAC with a USB option to play from your laptop as well and can later become a great DAC in your HIfi. i think it is priced the same as the Benchmark.

OR maybe a SqueezeBox with wireless streaming in from a PC and a Benchmark as the DAC+headphone amp might be good options

just my opinion and i do know thet opinions are like "The place dat the sun don shine nomore" ie everyone has one

Arj
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#15 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 12:38

a nice review of the 3 heavyweights i that area here

http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161032

Savyasaachi
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#16 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 13:08

Dear Arj,

Thank you for the link on the DAcs..
interesting read..
however, i already have a 'state of the art' if you might say DAC.

Its the DIY DAC that i was able to build with Arasu's help. He was able to procure(this was the most difficult job)parts and helped me assemble it.
It is the Elektor Audio 2000DAC.(CS8414, DF1704, Dual PCM1704, 4 x OPA627B)

Long considered one of the best DIY Dacs out there.

Though i did not get to hear mine(did not have the chassis ready)

i did listen to Arasu's for a breif while and the results were quite pleasing and worth the effort and more than worth the price.

But yeah, for the laptop i do have one of the EMU products in mind. But not just yet.

The point on the headphone amp is something that on hindsight seem to agree with you.
I listen to the Koss for more than 8 hours a day.
they just seem to grow on you the more you listen.
The sound staging and depth is unbelievable for the price.
However, highs do seem slightly bright in treble heavy songs.
And it can sound a bit harsh in some parts of specfic songs.
Still, nothing even remotely close to its SQ at this price range or even upto 50-75$.

I tend to agree with you on the Etys and similar monitor earbuds...the prospect of sticking something into the cochlear scares me...not to mention the added problems encountered if u sewat a lot( and i do)..tooo much maintainence.

besides, i don't think i could ever justify a hundred bucks spent on earphones.

Sachi

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Arj
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#17 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 13:17

oh ok..maybe you can focus your next DIY energies in making your DAC USB compatible and also add a headphone output ?

A T-amp might be a great option for the latter, with with an output filter and perhaps with rechargeable batteries and a recharging circuit !!

am sure it would be a killer and you might even get an order from me for a custome built one

did you research for any MP3 players with a digital output ? the old iRiver HD series had one..

Savyasaachi
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#18 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 13:38

Arj schrieb:

did you research for any MP3 players with a digital output ? the old iRiver HD series had one..

Well not exactly.
You see i don't have plans of using my DAP with an audio setup. I donot have any CDs here with me. Main source of music is MP3, a few Flacs and Wavs..If this gets serious then i would defintly upgrade to better featured players.

I do plan to build a collection once i am in a position to do but right now MP3s is all i got.
I figure that the best and cheapest DAP i could lay my hands on was either the Creative Vision M or the Archos.
having hear the latter and Abhi's creative Zen side by side with the MS1 and RS1, it was pretty simple choice for me to make.
The Archos cost me a mere 138$ shipped(they were 300 a year back), to the Creative's 200 odd buckaroos.
The main disadvantage of the Creative being that it is not UMS capable. U need to install drivers on the comp you connect it to.
Hence the swing for the Archos.

Am done DIYing for a while now

...no time...bloody thing takes too much time...
But if at all i do go ahead and build one, will drop you a mail for sure.

Savyasaachi
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#19 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 13:39

[quote]oh ok..maybe you can focus your next DIY energies in making your DAC USB compatible and also add a headphone output ?
[/quote]
A headphone out would be defnitely possible, but a USB one? I have no idea...
i did mull around with the idea of a Class A tube out stage insted of the OPA..maybe, once i get bored with those

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Amp_Nut
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#20 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 13:42

Sachi

Considered DIY ?

A simple op-amp with a gain of 10 or less ( 2 resistors THATS ALL ) will do VERY nicely for starters, and will meet all your above requirements ( 1 to 5 )

Use 2 separate 9 Volt batteries to get a split supply, and you have GREAT Bass response... down to ZERO Hertz !

Try a TL 072 Dual op amp and the entire project ( excluding the battery ) will cost approx Rs 50.

If you mount the Op Amp on an IC socket, you can swap op amps to other Part Nos and select the ones you prefer.

I remember reading about 1 year or so ago... Texas Instruments has a Headphone Amp IC, priced below US $ 2 which has been specifically voiced with the HD-600.

Sorry... dont remember the Part Number.

Cheers

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Savyasaachi
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#21 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 13:49

Amp_Nut schrieb:

Sachi

Cheers

Amp nut, i do have 5 pieces of OPA637s and 4 pieces of AD797s here with me which are more than enough to drive the senns... but i donot know if i would have the time to put a proper one together..
Probably after my first quarter during holidays...if am upto the idea i may have a go at it.
Don't have any of my tools here with me and the prospect of having to start out fresh here doesn't quite excite me right now...but yeah..its a great idea..

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juggy_25
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#22 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 15:33

The Senn PX100 is also seems to be an excellent portable headphone. Any experiences with the PX100s?

Heres a very interesting Portable Headphone Roundup:

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/other/headphones.ars

Arj
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#23 erstellt: 31. Okt 2006, 15:42

Savyasaachi schrieb:

You see i don't have plans of using my DAP with an audio setup. I donot have any CDs here with me. Main source of music is MP3, a few Flacs and Wavs..If this gets serious then i would defintly upgrade to better featured players.

:prost

an audiophile using MP3s ??? how could you

traitor !

Savyasaachi
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#24 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 09:17

Arj schrieb:

Savyasaachi schrieb:

an audiophile using MP3s ??? how could you

traitor !

Am not an 'audiophile'

..am an audio enthusiast

and i guess that gives me enough leeway to get away with using MP3s.

And people, do try

www.pandora.com

to experience some quality audio streaming...of late i have found this to be an awesome source for listning to new music..

Sachi

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Arj
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#25 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 11:51

hey thanks for the link, its a really cool concept ! could be one of the many forms of music delivery in the future.

i see a potential google acquisition !! .

Debu
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#26 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 11:57

One word of caution to headphone-philes. Please listen at a low volume, listen intermittently, not for a long period at a time.

Prolonged hearing at higher volume through headphone may cause loss of hearing, pls be careful.

- Debu

Savyasaachi
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#27 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 13:57

Arj schrieb:

hey thanks for the link, its a really cool concept ! could be one of the many forms of music delivery in the future.

i see a potential google acquisition !! .

About a google aquisition..i don't know..thiis compleltey open source..
they even have a device for superrior audio quiality for networking your entire house with it...and it boats a superb interface..one of the classiest digital interfaces i am yet to see being bested.

but it costs 2k$$!!!
heheh...but this is a beautiful source of music and the quality is pretty darn good..

Savyasaachi
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#28 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 13:59

Debu schrieb:

I hear you Debu...this is the only thing that makes me feel scared...don't want to loose my hearing on account of this..i prefer speakers...but hae no choice as of now..

Amp_Nut
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#29 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 14:13

What was that you said ?

Can you speak a little loudly ? I cant hear you.

Jest Kidding

Savyasaachi
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#30 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 14:20

Amp_Nut schrieb:

What was that you said ?

Can you speak a little loudly ? I cant hear you.

Jest Kidding

Actually i meant it as a pun...didn't put in the smileys...but you were quick to slip one in there didn't you amp nut..good one too..LMAO

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Neutral
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#31 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 19:17

Savyasaachi schrieb:

Amp_Nut schrieb:

What was that you said ?

Can you speak a little loudly ? I cant hear you.

Jest Kidding

Actually i meant it as a pun...didn't put in the smileys...but you were quick to slip one in there didn't you amp nut..good one too..LMAO

My take is that Grados are too bright at higher volumes. If the Alessandro sounds like a Grado, it wouldn't do you any good to play it too loud. Senns: 580 and 600 are very balanced, so I guess they can be played louder.

Debu Sir,

One doesn't get deaf by listening to good music. One gets deaf because of car horns and Divali bombs.

Shahrukh
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#32 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 19:44

[quote="Neutral"] One doesn't get deaf by listening to good music. One gets deaf because of car horns and Divali bombs.[/quote]

One also gets deaf at the car audio section in AV shows!
All puns intended!!!

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Debu
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#33 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 19:59

Read this:

http://www.techdigest.tv/2006/07/ipod_creating_a.html

- Debu

abhi.pani
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#34 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 20:34

Neutral schrieb:

Savyasaachi schrieb:

Amp_Nut schrieb:

What was that you said ?

Can you speak a little loudly ? I cant hear you.

Jest Kidding

Actually i meant it as a pun...didn't put in the smileys...but you were quick to slip one in there didn't you amp nut..good one too..LMAO

Dear Neutral,
There is no doubt that Alessandros sounds like Grados (infact they are made by Grado Labs but with some customized specs), but there is a difference....they sound lot warmer and tamed down compared to entry-level Grados. Thats the reason that they are never compared to entry-level Grados. They are much more balanced and refined keeping the Grado fun intact. So even the most entry-level Alessandro, the MS-1 is compared directly to Grado SR-225. .
As far as listening loud is concerned, they sound good and exciting both at lower volumes as well as higher volumes and infact thats one commendable feat they achieve, you dont have to pump them up too loud to enjoy them...even at very moderate volume levels they sound extremely peppy.
And in any case listening loud for long hours through any headphone is extremely un-reccommended

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SDhawan
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#35 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 20:59

Neutral wrote:

Debu Sir,

One doesn't get deaf by listening to good music. One gets deaf because of car horns and Divali bombs.

Neutral Sir,

Ears don't know whether you are listening to loud good music or car horns or Diwali bombs. They just listen to sound (SPL). Prolonged hearing of sound more than 90 dB leads to hearing loss especially begining with a dip at a frequency of 4 kHz.

Beethoven was deaf, Sting is loosing his hearing and so have many other musicians who are involved in regular live stage performances.

Please read one of my older posts on this subject in the "Offtopic" section.

Kamal
Stammgast

#36 erstellt: 01. Nov 2006, 21:21

I second the gist of Sanjays' comment-Headphones, like booze, nned to be taken in moderation, if you want a long & healthy life.
Right,Doctor Sa'ab?

Savyasaachi
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#37 erstellt: 02. Nov 2006, 04:52

Kamal schrieb:

I second the gist of Sanjays' comment-Headphones, like booze, nned to be taken in moderation, if you want a long & healthy life.
Right,Doctor Sa'ab?

Totally agree!

square_wave
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#38 erstellt: 02. Nov 2006, 09:34

Agree with Abhi here. The Alessandro, the MS-1 is a very balanced headphone. It is pretty revealing though which can make it a bit bright if connected to the wrong source like cheap soundcards. My flat-mate has one and we have tested it out with a lot of equipment. It sounds a bit bright with the office PC’s but with the right sound card or even connected to good equipment or I pod, it sounds fantastic. A good sound card and a tubed headphone amp can do wonders

Savyasaachi
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#39 erstellt: 03. Nov 2006, 09:59

After listening to the Archos Koss combo for the past 2 days..i must say this is as good as it gets for 150$...

Will have to really think hard before spending on the MS1..
For now am enjoying the KSC-75/Archos Combo..
IMHO, the Archos is way ahead of the IPOD...looks pretty cool too.

138$ well spent..Now my pals want to buy one too

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Savyasaachi
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#40 erstellt: 03. Nov 2006, 10:02

I am trying to listen to music at low volume levels..
have observed that with headphones, earphones you get accustomed to listening to music at high volumes and thisis the root cause of hearing loss..
It is a bit tough at first..you feel like you are almost straining to listen to the music..but with closed headphones or with open ones, specially the KSC75 in a peaceful setting you can really hear all the detils and the bass is surprisingly present and composed at low volumes..

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abhi.pani
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#41 erstellt: 03. Nov 2006, 10:12

Hey Sachi...great news man..so you bought the archos...do let us know a one on one with iPod if you get a chance. The most important thing to remember here is to copy the same track on to both the players while doing the comparision. Most of the times we tend to compare DAPs without considering the quality of the encoded mp3 present in the DAP. That makes a huge difference....I have heard very mediocre mp3 players sound better than my Creative Zen just because it was a badly encoded mp3 track on my Creative player when compared to that on the other player.

So buddy, please do let us know if you ever happen to conduct a shoot-out between the Archos and the iPods

Neutral
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#42 erstellt: 03. Nov 2006, 18:34

SDhawan schrieb:

Neutral wrote:

Debu Sir,

One doesn't get deaf by listening to good music. One gets deaf because of car horns and Divali bombs.

I agree Doctor. However, most music systems don't really go much above a 100dB without audibly distorting (forcing you to turn down the volume). However, I keep reading about the police picking up crackers measuring over 115dB in output. Whenever, I hear the shrill horn of the Chennai water tankers, I know that I have lost a part of my hearing. Even though I listen to music on headphones for hours, the crackers and tankers damage my hearing more in just a few seconds.

Neutral
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#43 erstellt: 03. Nov 2006, 18:39

abhi.pani schrieb:

Neutral schrieb:

Savyasaachi schrieb:

Amp_Nut schrieb:

What was that you said ?

Can you speak a little loudly ? I cant hear you.

Jest Kidding

Actually i meant it as a pun...didn't put in the smileys...but you were quick to slip one in there didn't you amp nut..good one too..LMAO

Really pained to read this, Abhi

If I had known that Alessandro produced a better sound for just $30 more than the cheapest Grado, I would have gone that route. The Grado's only flaw is that it is biased towards high frequencies (very apparent when I compared it to the Senn 600). A Grado's strength is the wealth of details that you hear. I still feel that it is a great headphone for listening to laidback stuff like Diana Krall.

I certainly wouldn't use my Grado for harsher music or at loud volume. My HT would be better for that (lower resolution would mask the harshness).

Savyasaachi
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#44 erstellt: 04. Nov 2006, 06:17

have been listening to the Koss KSC75s for a while now..
Though they are said to be oriented towards the rock, hip hop genre..
I heard the following songs and am convinced that these guys perform pretty good for Jazz and classical..
The songs that i auuditioned them with are..

1.Seems Like Most Everything Used To Be Something Else - the Six parts Seven (Excellent mix of instruments).

2.Just You, Just Me - Anthony Wonsey Trio (Brilliant!)

3.It Never Entered My Mind - Keith Jarrett (wow!)

4.I'm Old Fashioned - Alan Broadbent (Nice)

5.Call Me Irresponsible - Monty Alexander (fabulous!)

Abhi, will defnitely post a camparison between the Ipod 30 GB Video/Ipod Nano and the Archos Gmini.

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Manek
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#45 erstellt: 04. Nov 2006, 07:38

I see Sachi seems to like monty alexander

There's more....and a lot more and he is an awesome pianist.

Try listening to Monty "live at iridium" and "live at Montreux". The last one especially is out of this world and is a 1976 album.

Manek.

Savyasaachi
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#46 erstellt: 05. Nov 2006, 07:31

Manek schrieb:

I see Sachi seems to like monty alexander

Hehhe...yeah i seem to have taken a sorta likking towards the classic jazz...love to have a solo bass in the background with piano..
haven't heard many of Monty's songs..but i do like the ones i have heard of his..
One of the tracks i like is 'All the Way'..
Also heard Seranata by Alan Broadbent and holy $hit ..its awesome.
Music is so unadulterated.
Also try There is no graeter love by Mike Melvoin
anotehr excellent piece of piano..
these last two songs is my kinda Jazz..so guy splease feel free to suggest some more songs and artists...will opwn a new thread on this in the Music forum

Sachi

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Manek
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#47 erstellt: 06. Nov 2006, 07:14

Sachi
alan broadbent does orchestral arrangements and big band arrangements. example the diana krall live in paris album had alan broadbent conduct a french orchestra for the event....

Manek.

Savyasaachi
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#48 erstellt: 06. Nov 2006, 07:27

Manek schrieb:

Sachi
alan broadbent does orchestral arrangements and big band arrangements. example the diana krall live in paris album had alan broadbent conduct a french orchestra for the event....

Manek.

Thanks for that Manek..
Keep them coming..

Neutral
Stammgast

#49 erstellt: 07. Nov 2006, 17:44

Manek schrieb:

Sachi
alan broadbent does orchestral arrangements and big band arrangements. example the diana krall live in paris album had alan broadbent conduct a french orchestra for the event....

Manek.

Thank you Alan! I love the album: Diana Krall - Live in Paris. Now I hunger for more.

sivat
Stammgast

#50 erstellt: 16. Nov 2006, 06:57

Neutral schrieb:

Thank you Alan! I love the album: Diana Krall - Live in Paris. Now I hunger for more. :D

Even I used to love this particular album...till i heard Ella sing the same songs...

I do not think Ella would need any help from Alan B to give much more life to the music/songs.

Sorry for the off-topic response...but i could not resist

Regards
Siva.

Savyasaachi
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#51 erstellt: 16. Nov 2006, 07:49

Neutral schrieb:

Manek schrieb:

Sachi
alan broadbent does orchestral arrangements and big band arrangements. example the diana krall live in paris album had alan broadbent conduct a french orchestra for the event....

Manek.

Thank you Alan! I love the album: Diana Krall - Live in Paris. Now I hunger for more. :D