B&W Speakers

yes they would pair up decently well. I have heard these speakers, a tad bright and the warmer nad amp will compliment them well.

manek.

I find the 600 series from B&W very ordinary for the price you pay for them. It is their entry level and has a very colored sound. Very much voiced slightly on the “boom-tizz” side to give a very exciting sound. The cabinets too are compromised which adds to the boom. Good for HT. For music I would look elsewhere. If music is your first priority I would suggest quad 11L or if your budget is slightly low - the AE Evo1, energy C series are also a good choices. If you are not very brand conscious, the Bookshelf speakers from Lyrita audio or Acoustic portrait can beat the pants off any of these entry level speakers. Much better parts/cabinets and voiced with music in mind….

the 600 series is targeted at the HT market and it is not for 2 channel Audio..

The pitfall is the Most people like sound to be high on treble and bass as it gives an impression of details and clarity (How many of your forends put on a compo with treble and bass at Baximu ? ) Almost all do henece the manufacturer voices it so !

But again it is very well engineered so if parnered with a warmish amp, as Manek mentioned, it can sound good..

Better not to fall into generalisations in speakers as each person would have heard it at a different time at a different place and with different components... so you need to hear it . there are many who find the sound to their liking as well

( you can check out audioreview)

Yup…. I agree that the speakers are well engineered except for the cabinets which I find a bit flimsy for the money you pay. The problem I had is with the voicing. I like them only from the 700 series. In fact I found the wharfedale diamond 9.1 bookshelf speaker better value for money when compared to the 600 series bookshelf speakers. I know the 600 series is very popular at audio review.com. But consumer reviews can be very misleading. If you read the reviews for 600 series, most are written by newbie audiophiles and they will definitely like the 600 series. I guess sammy needs to listen and decide. He may like them. I was just suggesting alternatives for better value for money.

For me, having heard it with a Rotel and a Marantz (I think) Technically the speaker is quite good..it has good freq curves etc etc.. but musically: Zilch, Nada

If you want a good value for money speaker, try out the Infinity Primus 160. heard it recently and must say has a very Clean sound (Thats the only way i can describe it ) !

Thanks for the suggestions. What is the difference between Wharfedale 9.1 and 9.2?

I guess 9.2 are slightly bigger bookshelf speakers. I heard the 9.1 with NAD separates and found it to be quite clean with none of the usual nasties associated with budget bookshelf speakers. I am not saying it is very good…..it is very good value for the money. Don’t be blinded by the b&w sticker. Hear out others too before you part with your money. I normally stay away from the lowest line of speakers from any brand. They are the most compromised and they charge a bomb for the brand name.

I too heard the Wharfedale 8.2s & the 9.1s with Cambridge Audio electronics Azur 540 series amp & CDP and later with the NAD C-320BEE & 521BEE. Interconn were Ecosse Composer, Conductor & also vdH D102-Mk3-Hybrid. Pretty decent sound for the money I must say regarding the Wharfedales though dont expect too much. Nevertheless, what ever they do, they do hold their composure and for acoustic music, I reckon they wont let you down. Felt NAD combo was a much better choice.

I am yet to hear the 9.2 but its my guess the sound would be a little bit fuller and would probably suit most people's rooms better.

Do note that these babies mandate you biwire them - which the dealer wouldn't ever do and demonstrate. Do insist on this for a critical listen. They make a good difference.

I'm keen in the 9.2s for a friend who is looking for a 2-ch setup for his 11 x 12 ft den. Wonder how much differences there is between the 8.2s & the 9.2s? Comments would be welcomed.

By the way, if you can stretch to the Quad 12L, they are great & sober for acoustic music.

Thanks again...sorry to sound naive...but what is biwiring? And how to go about it? Where does one get " Ecosse Composer, Conductor & vdH D102-Mk3-Hybrid."

Sammygeorge,

Click on this link for an explanation on biwiring

http://www.whathifi....D=59&newssectionID=3

Click here for dope on cabling

http://www.whathifi....D=27&newssectionID=3

Hope this helps

K

Biwiring is done using either a 4-core biwiring cable or with 2 separate runs of a standard 2-core loudspeaker cable.

At the speaker end, you'll find 2 sets of binding posts; +ve & -ve for LF (Low Freq) and similarly +ve & -ve for HF (High freq). If you use 2 sets of std speaker cables, connect one set cables to LF & the other to the HF (careful that phases are maintained correctly).

At the amp end, there's usually a single set of +ve & -ve terminals. Join the +ve of the LF & HF together and insert this to the +ve of the amp. Similarly, do the same with the -ve terminals.

One of the problems with a standard crossover is that since one pair of cables carries the signal to & from the amp, bass signals can tend to swamp the more delicate treble stuff, especially in the return (or -ve) connection back to the amp. Intermodulation distortion.

Benefits: By separating the signal all the way back to amplifier's output stage, using two runs of cable or a purpose-made four conductor biwire cable, these effects can be greatly reduced.

Generally, british speakers coming from good reputed manufacturers will cater biwiring. It is my humble suggestion that this be used as intended. Freaks may move on to biamping, i.e. providing separate amp channels to each drivers.

Hope this explaination helps.

Ecosse cables can be sourced from Soundsmiths, Mumbai or any of their dealers. vdH (van den Hul) again from Innovative Audio or Lakosy in Mumbai.

sammygeorge schrieb:

Thanks again...sorry to sound naive...but what is biwiring? And how to go about it? Where does one get " Ecosse Composer, Conductor & vdH D102-Mk3-Hybrid."

Suggest you tune your ears by single wiring first !

it is again a controversial topic and once you are into it would be able to get a better understanding...but since oyu are beginning, better to be single

I second that………….Unless you have lot of money, get the best single cable you can and just single wire. Later save up and buy another set of the same quality and bi-wire. I guess most in the market for budget speakers won’t be able to afford double lengths of high-quality wires for bi-wiring.