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VIX
Neuling
#1 erstellt: 03. Mrz 2005, 17:06
Hi Everyone

Just today I came across this forum & since then feeling lucky to have found this place or I should say bank of knowledge.

I dont have too much knowledge about this field but I am planning to buy a decent HT & my budget would be Rs. 35K (Max) which should cover AV Receiver + Speakers(5.1).

It would be a great help if you guys can guide me. I am from Delhi, India & don't know where I can check the stuff you guys have mentioned in other posts.

Thanks in advance.
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#2 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 13:35
if you want to have a good system with out too many experiments.go in for Onkyo HTS670.lil above 35K.....but very good performance.....iam not suggesting coz it got rated as best AV package in AVMAX.i don't beleive in paid awards.....but my personal experience.or if you want.......u can look for combinations,.then you have YAMAHA.denon.hk receivers....with speakers ranging from Lithos , Space...Sonodyne....+/- your budget by 25%..mostly +
VIX
Neuling
#3 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 15:13
Thanks SUB_BOSS.

I have taken a demo of ONKYO 670, was pretty good but I was told that it will cost me 45K (cash offer).

But if I do have to shell out 45K then I believe I can have a decent combination of speakers (lithos) & a good AV receiver, what do you suggest for this? (which may give better result than 670, i may be wrong)

If you have any idea about pricing (approx) then it will definately help me a lot.

I wrote an email to LITHOS for this & they have suggest me

5.1 (5xNoa1Sat + 2xNoa1Sub) - Rs. 39799 (MRP + Tax)
+
Yamaha RXV 550 (no clue abt the price)

Thanks in advance, hope I am not bugging you guys.
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#4 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 15:32
hi VIX,

No bugging brother....yamaha 550 is abt 22k i guess.and HTS670 is reduced from 45 k.......or HTS570 is good at 30k......or maybe 28k now....good features and ofcourse I prefer proper after sales service which Onkyo is good at.....going in for Lithos speakers at 40 k and 22 k for receiver will add upto 60k and i don't see the value for money.....in stead if you are in bangalore you'll get a good deal at 64K for Onkyo receiver with floor standers..6.1 sound.....so shoot questions man
abhi.pani
Inventar
#5 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 15:37
Why dont you try Torvins and Space as well ? Let me know if you have access to them, I can give you their contact number if you want. You can just buy a latest AV MAX magazine and their last pages have the ads regarding these brands. You will get all sorts of information you want from these ads. I am specifying you these brands because they have decent products in your budget. If you look on the taller side of the building, you wont find the tip. I mean, since you have mentioned that your budget is tight so we should be guiding you accordingly. Try these brands and let us know about your experience.
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#6 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 15:45
you see as i said you spending 40 k for speakers from Lithos is not wise as you'll have to spend another 20-25 k for a receiver, instead you can try JBL escite at 20K a sub with all biult in features such as dolby and inputs etc with 4 sattelites and a centre.....so at 20k you have all..or maybe as i suggested HTS570 will do......
abhi.pani
Inventar
#7 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 15:53
yes that option is always there. You can always give it a try because its JBL . But that will put you in total savings mode and it will also restrict you from any kind upgradation because its a package. Later on if you plan to have a stereo setup, you cannot reuse any of the components from the HT. You have to setup your stereo from scratch. Let us know about your plans.
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#8 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 16:03
actually abhi.my friend who has heard it and claims that it out performed the entry level Yamaha receiver...not in the output ...but......quality wise.looks cute too.....maybe it feels too inferior to have the whole receiver section in sub....but value for money......check this out

http://international...ge=ENGLISH&Status=EC


[Beitrag von SUB_BOSS am 04. Mrz 2005, 16:04 bearbeitet]
abhi.pani
Inventar
#9 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 16:36
I saw the site, its good to see the hifi brands having affordable HT systems but still I would recommend this system only to someone whose budget is 20k Max . I wont buy it if I had a budget of 35k, much much better would be an Onkyo HTS series. Atleast I can upgrade at any point of time.....
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#10 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 16:41
20k for JBL is good but i would shell out another 8k and go in for 28k HTS570....VFM would be an understatement
VIX
Neuling
#11 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 16:56
Hi Everyone

Thanks for your great input.

I never knew about Onkyo HTS 570 & is of 30K, coz the Onkyo guy I met never told me about this. I have just called another Onkyo dealer in Delhi & he has confirmed me about 570 & is asking for a price of 30K. And he is also offering 670 for 40K.

I will be visiting him tomorrow to finalize what I will take (but somewhere I think I have finalized 570).

One more thing, I noticed in quite a few posts that you guys suggest about cables. So just out of curiosity can you guide me which DVD player 5.1 & what sort of cables I MUST buy to experience the stuff (570).

Regards
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#12 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 17:15
Just use the cables what onkyo gives and since it's a package it includes everything.maybe you can strech a lttle from 35k to 40k for the 670.........hey they have 0% finance schemes payable over 12 emi's.good luck and use a dvd player from philips@ 4k.it's the best combo for 570..don't invest too much on a dvd player now....maybe you can upgrade later.........happy shopping
benkenobi
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#13 erstellt: 04. Mrz 2005, 17:21
i agree with sub_boss. go for the Phillips 642k, it also plays the new gen video and audio(mpeg4) formats. i.e, it can play divx movies.
great value for money. also comes with progressive scan.
i have checcked it out and its a very good buy.
Ben
VIX
Neuling
#14 erstellt: 05. Mrz 2005, 14:13
Hi Guys

Again Thanks.

Just an update I have bought Onkyo 570 for 28K, & will be picking my DVD player either today or tomorrow. I seriosly believe in 28K I had got a very good system, considering the satisfaction I had after the demo.

Guys thanx
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#15 erstellt: 09. Mrz 2005, 11:04
I can see the sparkle in your eyes....now enjoy the stuff...........
Venks
Neuling
#16 erstellt: 29. Mrz 2005, 20:21
Hi Vix, everyone...

Just thru Viks, i came to know abt this forum. Very glad to see many are here to guide and help... thatz great guys, keep up ur good work...

I just went thru the postings/replies Sub_boss, Ben, abhi.pani... truly amazing...

BTW, as the topic entered abt the DVD Player Philips DVP642, i just had an experience with that before i left for US. It was perfect while playing all the custom DVDs, options were good.. but a major setback.. It couldn't recognize the DVDs bought in US. That was the sad thing about it. Rgd the 5.1 channels outputs, I integrated it with my Yamaha HTR 5650 and Bose Acoustimass 10 Series 3.
5.1 CD got me truly amazing results from it... But while coming for the DVD part, while playing it, the audio o/p thru a digicoax cable produced magics than the 5.1 cables.

I wish if we cud hack the manufacturer's code and make it region-free, then that would be the best DVD player i had ever come across.

BTW, guys if you can help me out a best in class DVD player(for my Yamaha HTR5650 & Bose combo), am willing to get it at any cost....

Keep posting guys...

Take care
Venks.


[Beitrag von Venks am 29. Mrz 2005, 20:25 bearbeitet]
benkenobi
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#17 erstellt: 29. Mrz 2005, 20:48
nice to hear that the phillips worked out for u. it really is excellent for the moneyy.
and i think u can make it region free.
let me check and see if i can find out how to do itt.
Cheers,
Ben
benkenobi
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#18 erstellt: 29. Mrz 2005, 20:54
ok, i got the steps u have to do to make it region free from two sites and there seems to be people who have tried this out successfuly.
here goes

1. Turn on the player.
2. Open the tray.
3. Press the following sequence on the remote:
7 8 9 OK 0
4. The number 0 will appear on the lower left side of your screen.
5. Your player is now region free! Put in a DVD and enjoy!

NOTE: The 0 in the sequence above represents the region code. 0 = region free. If you want to change your player to just a specific region code, replace the 0 with the region number you want.

The hack should be perfectly safe, but USE IT ON YOUR OWN RISK!

the links are
http://www.videohelp.com/fastrec.php

(read this completely before experimenting, i just read thru it very quickly and use it at UR OWM RISK)

http://buan.nu/philips/dvp630/regioncodehack.html

and

http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Philips_DVP-642-64918-1.html
Harmon_Bro
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#19 erstellt: 30. Mrz 2005, 05:54
Hello venks,
Welcome to the HI Forum.. and hey mate... the id Vix is someone else's. Harmon is me mate.

Guys I got the Yamaha RX V550 receiver last weekend. Iam yet to get hold of the surround with a budget of 80k. PLannin to check out Accoustic Energy floorstanders and centers and Polk Audio for surrounds. What do you guys think of it?

- vikram
Harmon_Bro
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#20 erstellt: 30. Mrz 2005, 21:31
guys,
how is the Sony DVP NS530 DVD player comapare the Philips DVD player which VEnks mentioned.
ezcompany
Neuling
#21 erstellt: 11. Apr 2005, 16:40
Guys
Iam new here.pls help me out with something.
a good HT for 35 k. which shud i go for?
iam based in chennai.
abhi.pani
Inventar
#22 erstellt: 11. Apr 2005, 17:11
Does your 35k include DVD player also ??
ezcompany
Neuling
#23 erstellt: 12. Apr 2005, 06:32
Hi Abhi
GM.Nice to see a response to my query.
and no.i already have a dvd player.
a samsung 240.but then i dont know how gud that player is.
abhi.pani
Inventar
#24 erstellt: 12. Apr 2005, 06:41
Did you try the Onkyo HTS 670 package. Its around 40k with a AVR and 5.1 speaker set
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#25 erstellt: 12. Apr 2005, 10:31
I second abhi here ...auditioned it ...tried many other brands but this some how seemed very perfect at that price point...many other brands are available ...but this package complements the devices within so well it's hard to overlook this...audition it and you wouldn't go very wrong here and looks good too...VFM
ezcompany
Neuling
#26 erstellt: 12. Apr 2005, 13:10
GA SB.
and thanx for giving me ur suggestions guys.
i was totally lost before i entered this forum.
well i will try that.there is some HT Mela going on @ the Onkyo stores in chennai i think.so this mite b the rite time to go and have a look.

but wat abt the direct wave systems frm BOSE?
abhi.pani
Inventar
#27 erstellt: 12. Apr 2005, 13:41
Forget Bose immediately or you will be directly affected from their direct wave of Marketing tricks....
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#28 erstellt: 12. Apr 2005, 13:45
heheheh..rightly said Abhi...BOSE is all bollocks
salszone
Neuling
#29 erstellt: 05. Okt 2005, 12:04
heya guys!

just got this forum through one of the links on my Google search

Well currently am in a fix ... i have an ol' yam ax396 amp with wharfedales diamond 9.1 and mission m30i's as surround speakers. Being a 2 channel stereo amp i was looking to buy a receiver ... my budget is really really tight. max i would like to spend is around 20K for the amp. The dealer here recommended me yamaha rx-v450 ... any thoughts on this one??? i did read some nice reviews but wasn't kind of convinced Has anyone used this 6.1 receiver ... u think it wud be a gud entry level buy?

Thanks in advance for your answers!

Cheerz!
Sals.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#30 erstellt: 05. Okt 2005, 12:59
IMHO, the yam is a bit on the brighter side. Great for for movies. Not so much for music though
anirvan
Stammgast
#31 erstellt: 05. Okt 2005, 13:19
on a budget denon 1905 for 20k (without bill), is another good option-otherwise yamahas are super for the price-
r
anirvan
benkenobi
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#32 erstellt: 05. Okt 2005, 14:57
i Have the yammy and if you are not too concerened about the dynamics and subtle accuracies in the sound reproduced...yammy 450 is more than enough.
The 450 performs very well for the price..
verynewone
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#33 erstellt: 05. Okt 2005, 16:44
I second (third??) that...

RX-V450 is pretty good for its price.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#34 erstellt: 06. Okt 2005, 07:08
Guess everyone has their own tastes. RXV450 just doesn't do it for me. Maybe cos' I like my music a lil' laid back. Marantz SR4400 would be my choice any day. I got mine for 20K with bill. It's worth checking out.

(The Yamaha Z9 is cool. Not at such a cool price though
benkenobi
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#35 erstellt: 06. Okt 2005, 07:38
the marantz is a much better product and for 20k itis more than worth it...my receiver is already a year old...so one might say i bought it at a premium cause it was new in the market..i paid 20k for it.
abhi.pani
Inventar
#36 erstellt: 06. Okt 2005, 11:39
Salszone,
If you are from India, do give Sonodyne a chance. At 17k it will just amaze you with its overall performance.
verynewone
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#37 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 10:43
Salszone,
SR 4400 and RX-V450 are both discontinued models, I guess that is why SR 4400 is available for 20k. U can try getting a discount on RX-V450 as well.

To sum it up, try everything that is available in your budget before deciding...
Shahrukh
Inventar
#38 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 12:35
verynewone, I don't think the SR440 is discontinued. It is still featured in the "products" section on Marantz's website. It's not an archived product.
abhi.pani
Inventar
#39 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 12:49
Basically, SR-4400 is hard to find here with dealers. If anyone has it, its basically lying with him for long and thats the reason you get it cheap. Actually its SR-4500 which is readily available in the market and that too at a price tag of around 25k (without papers).
You got to hunt around for SR-4400.

My take is still on Sonodyne. At 17k they beat every other AVR including Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo except for Marantz.
Take a look at it and you realize what I am talking about.
abhi.pani
Inventar
#40 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 12:51
Infact for HT, its better than Marantz SR-4400 IMO, with a better low end grunt and better Surround processing.
Its only in the Stereo region where the Marantz is better than Sonodynes.
anirvan
Stammgast
#41 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 13:10
abhi is right , sonodyne is super for it sprice range,
definitely better than entry level firang stuff-

a must see-
r
anirvan
Shahrukh
Inventar
#42 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 13:13

abhi.pani schrieb:
My take is still on Sonodyne. At 17k they beat every other AVR including Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo except for Marantz.
Take a look at it and you realize what I am talking about.


Kinda agree with you there mate, the SR4400 does lack bite when it comes to soundtracks. But, being more the music buff, it doesn't bother me much.


abhi.pani schrieb:
You got to hunt around for SR-4400.


Maybe you're right. I got my amp quite some time back.
verynewone
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#43 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 13:48


verynewone, I don't think the SR440 is discontinued. It is still featured in the "products" section on Marantz's website. It's not an archived product.


Marantz Europe site shows it in Archived section:
http://www.marantz.c...rod_id=2485&type=avr



My take is still on Sonodyne. At 17k they beat every other AVR including Yamaha, Denon, Onkyo except for Marantz.
Take a look at it and you realize what I am talking about.


Sonodyne is definitely worth a try since you are looking for something within 20k.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#44 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 14:00

verynewone schrieb:

Marantz Europe site shows it in Archived section:
http://www.marantz.c...rod_id=2485&type=avr


Sorry verynewone. Didn't know you were European. I'm Indian, hence I was referring the Marantz ASIA site. It's very much part of the A/V reciever prodcut line up here. Check if you want:

http://www.marantz.c...type=avr&series=comp
verynewone
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#45 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 15:43
Shahrukh,
I am very much an Indian, and I am reffering to the European site because Sharda Pro Acoustics which is the official distributor of Marantz, takes you there

http://www.shardamotor.com/ProProduct.htm

U will not find SR 4400 in the product list here...

Anyways, as long as it works for you and you can get it at a discount :D, it doesn't matter even if it is discontinued.
Shahrukh
Inventar
#46 erstellt: 07. Okt 2005, 15:49
Maybe Sharda motors should be true to their region. India is part of the Asia Pacific market. Not the European one.
anirvan
Stammgast
#47 erstellt: 08. Okt 2005, 07:20
the prices of sharda motors are just double the US web site prices- and thrice the singapore and far east prices-
doe sharda motor have an outlet in blore, it does one in chennai tho'

r
anirvan
Edges
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#48 erstellt: 08. Okt 2005, 09:13
hey ani,

sharda motors have made audio planet,koramangala as their preferred dealer here in bangalore...they even deal with boston acoustics and mordaunt short.....

edges
anirvan
Stammgast
#49 erstellt: 08. Okt 2005, 11:38
yep boss,
its the same setup here in delhi,
plus they nakamichi
r
anirvan
verynewone
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#50 erstellt: 08. Okt 2005, 13:10
Anirvan,
Is the price difference that you are talking about only for Marantz? I have enquired about the prices of Boston Speakers at Audio Planet Bangalore, they are only marginally higher than the US prices.

In fact I remember the owner of Audio Planet (Mr Palani) mentioning that the national distributor for Boston (Sharda motors I presume) was very effective in bringing down the prices for Boston products significantly within one year.

Hope they do the same for Marantz as well
Edges
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#51 erstellt: 08. Okt 2005, 14:00
hey verynewone......

i am sure its for marantz only.....as i am looking to buy the marantz so have surveyed the whole market i donot know bout boston as i didnt wanna buy them so hadnt gone into depth of these things......ya sharda motora have gone down on the prices but how bout quoting 52k for a marantz 4500 when launched and now quoting 30k for the same with bill.....does that still seem marginally high price compared to the US market

so comparing i dont think they wud have come down on the products they deal with.......any distributor for that matter wudnt invest a lot for the distributorship paying a hefty amount to get the distributorship and getting a container full of products and stocking a huge numbers......and blocking a lot of money in the stocks as these are not that fast moving products as LG,samsung,sony,etc,etc.......
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