Siltech Pantheon

goolimangala schrieb:

And hurry up to be one of the lucky 39 owners worldwide Jochen

Hello Jochen !

Any idea what the speaker is priced @ ?
Are all the finishes having the same price ?

Can we expect 1 of the 39 pairs to me in India ?
Actually 2 of the owners are indian, hence 2 pairs should be here - ideally speaking; Chhabria & Shirke !!!



http://www.hifi-foru...tech/pantheon_2.html

While Mr Shirke's involvement in and Bank rolling of the Siltech products is known...

I was surprised to hear Finolex's name in the same breadth...

We we going to see Esoteric Cables from Finolex ?

Anyone has a clue / speculation on the reason for Finolex's involvement ?

Amp_Nut schrieb:

I was surprised to hear Finolex's name in the same breadth... We we going to see Esoteric Cables from Finolex ?

Mr. Chhabria was involved from day 1. He was there in Pune @ the party when Cadence & Finolex had purchased controlling stake in Siltech. About 2 years back [actually about 18 months or so back].

Actually Finolex has the knowledge & idea of how to draw and make cables.
If Finolex owns Siltech, then the technology can be transferred to Finolex & it could do OE for Siltech. Cost cutting etc.
This is my intepretation & pure speculation. I do not have any news or confirmation on the same from Cadence or Siltech or Finolex in any manner.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

goolimangala schrieb: And hurry up to be one of the lucky 39 owners worldwide Jochen Hello Jochen ! Any idea what the speaker is priced @ ? Are all the finishes having the same price ? Can we expect 1 of the 39 pairs to me in India ? Actually 2 of the owners are indian, hence 2 pairs should be here - ideally speaking; Chhabria & Shirke !!! http://www.hifi-foru...tech/pantheon_2.html

Hi,

Mr. Shirke's pair will be delivered to Pune in about two weeks time. I'm planning to go for there for an audition sometime in November, after the speakers are broken in.

Regards,
Jochen

A surprise was found in one of the last rooms we visited - the presence of Siltech. Very soon after the festive presentation of their first-ever Pantheon 25 loudspeaker, Siltech now presented the somewhat smaller Pantheon XX. The speaker on demo was still a beta version but nonetheless bloomed in the large room. The biggest difference to the Pantheon 25 is the Raal ribbon tweeter replacing the Cadence electrostatic tweeter. Housed in a similarly shaped baffle with foam deflectors on top and bottom of the ribbon, the tweeter remains adjustable for fine-tuning the sweet spot via tilt.

http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/brussels07/brussels.html

Funny ! I read the very same thing today

apparently it is of east european origin..

Interesting link-Tks Bhagwan.
Get a load of the Triangle monster-almost the size of a minibus! What're they trying to ahieve?
With their only contribution to the Pantheon out of this model, I wonder what Cadence is doing to establish their presence on the world Hi End stage...

Cadence is not trying to establish any thing;
Just wants to keep buying out international audio companies.
They [Cadence] just picked up Spendor - 3 months back.
Some more seem to be on the cards.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Cadence is not trying to establish any thing; Just wants to keep buying out international audio companies. They [Cadence] just picked up Spendor - 3 months back. Some more seem to be on the cards.

Dear Bhagwan,

Did they buy a certain share in Spendor or have they just taken up distribution of Spendor in India.

Regards
SNV

Hi SNV !

I am not sure, but it seems that it is both !!!!

Cadence will distribute Spendor in India.

Spendor is also 'owned' by Cadence.

This is what I think I understood.
However, I am not so sure.

clrmumbai@gmail.com

This is the e-mail address of the Mumbai Audio Demo Room.
Cadence & Spendor i.e.

Maybe you could get your questions answered there.
The Demo room is operational, but will open officially next week - some time.

Happy Auditioning !!!

The Cadence Record Cleaning Machine in Belgium - Audio Show - 2007

Hope they start offering it in the local market soon. They were selling it in Europe for almost 2 yrs.

Me thinks Cadence shld concentrate on their core competency, viz, building/improving their speaker lineup & also their tube amps; there are any number of competent record cleaning machines available for import-a very, very limited market in any case.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Hi SNV ! I am not sure, but it seems that it is both !!!! Cadence will distribute Spendor in India. Spendor is also 'owned' by Cadence. This is what I think I understood. However, I am not so sure.

You are right sir.

They own and distribute Spendor.

Regards
SNV

The Speaker is in India;
Has been for 2 weeks now.
Have not had the chance for an audition.
I do hope to get that chance to listen to it.
Some of the front end electronics seem to have changed.
CD Player will be Teac P3 & D3.
Pre Amplifier will be Audio Research Reference Pre
Phono Stage will be Reference Phone [Audio Research]
Cables are all G-6 with SATT [Power Cords upgraded]
Power Conditioning is from PS Audio.

If any forum member does get that chance for an audition, please do share your experiances with us.
It shall be appreciated.

Is the Speaker with Ajay Shirke?

Pre Amplifier will be Audio Research Reference Pre

The AR Ref 3 is One Pre I would LOVE to hear.

Only problem will be that the rest of the system will also be an unknown, hence difficult to attribute specific characteristics to each element in the chain.

bhagwan,

you've mentioned the phono stage but no TT ....any idea which one ? SME ???

I have heard the AR phono stage on a couple of occasions and it is some piece of equipment....

manek.

I'm guessing it would be an SME. Esp since Cadence are distributing the brand here.

Shahrukh schrieb:

I'm guessing it would be an SME. Esp since Cadence are distributing the brand here.

Yes Sir;

SME 30 it is. The Cartridge is Clearaudio Insider [purchased direct - not from SS].
This has not changed.
The PS was to be Asthetix but for a reason I do not know, it was replaced with the AR Phono Reference.
I had suggested the AR CD 7 too, but P3 & D3 was the preferred option.

It shouuld be a nice set up. I look forward to listening to it - soon - i.e.
The CD Player is not in as yet; Back ordered 3 months [so I was told 1 month back].

Kamal schrieb:

Is the Speaker with Ajay Shirke?

Has anyone had the chance to listen to the 'P' as yet ?
Any Pune Forum mambers from Pune had the chance ?
Dealer / Distributor from Bangalore [Goolimangala] ?

If some one could post pictures and post a report it would be appreciated.

Please.

Thanks,

p.s. I think the speaker has been here for more than 1 month - now......It may be a world first chance.

This particilar set up in Pune is easily worth in excess of 350/- K US $'s [I think]
Teac P-03 + D-03 [Transport + DAC]
Teac P-70 + D-70 [Transport + DAC]
Teac G-0 [Word Clock Sync]
Audio Research Ref Pre
Audio Research Ref Phono
Conrad Johnson - Art - Pre
SME 30 - Turn Table
Clearaudio - Insider - Cartridge
PS Audio - Power Conditioning
Siltech Cables - G6 with SATT - All Through on all products.
Cadence Canasya Power Amplifier
Cadence Arca - IV

All Mumbai / Pune forum members should try and drop by for a visit. Mr. Dave in Pune may be in a position to help [just suggesting].
I feel that members from ND & Bangalore too should try and come by for a listen. May be a nice experiance.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Kamal schrieb: Is the Speaker with Ajay Shirke? Has anyone had the chance to listen to the 'P' as yet ? Any Pune Forum mambers from Pune had the chance ? Dealer / Distributor from Bangalore [Goolimangala] ? If some one could post pictures and post a report it would be appreciated. Please. Thanks, p.s. I think the speaker has been here for more than 1 month - now......It may be a world first chance.

Hi Bhagwan,

I haven't had the chance yet since I came back from Germany this week only. Brought with me an EINSTEIN "The Last Record Player" which has shot my setup here immediately to another level I'm very busy to rediscover my CD-collection now. But will keep you informed when I go to Pune.

Regards,
Jochen

goolimangala said:

Brought with me an EINSTEIN "The Last Record Player"

Would LOVE to hear your specific views / review on this CD player.

Also did you get to hear the EINSTEIN PreAmp ? Your feedback on that would also be VERY welcome.

Yes;
I have had the chance to listen to that particular CD Player & Pre & Power Amp a few times.
This picture is of a listen from May, 2007. in Munich.
It was with the Marten Design 'Bird' & Jorma Cables.



This particualr CD Player was to be phased out. I am not sure, but so I was told. A replacement was ready for launch. Maybe it will come out in Jan 2008 @ CES.

Will write about it in a while.

Congrats Goolimangala !!!

Another picture = speaker + amp + cable

Amp_Nut schrieb:

goolimangala said: Brought with me an EINSTEIN "The Last Record Player" Would LOVE to hear your specific views / review on this CD player. Also did you get to hear the EINSTEIN PreAmp ? Your feedback on that would also be VERY welcome.

Hi Amp Nut,

I can share the views of the reviewer on the sixmoons-website. Also you find other links to reviews on the US-distributers website http://www.aaudioimports.com
I'll post my views sometime later. But best would be you come along and listen yourself.

Regards,
Jochen

Geez ! In the pic, the Electronics look almost DIY.

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Yes; I have had the chance to listen to that particular CD Player & Pre & Power Amp a few times. This picture is of a listen from May, 2007. in Munich. It was with the Marten Design 'Bird' & Jorma Cables. This particualr CD Player was to be phased out. I am not sure, but so I was told. A replacement was ready for launch. Maybe it will come out in Jan 2008 @ CES. Will write about it in a while. Congrats Goolimangala !!!

Yes that's true, for the moment they have stopped producing the last record player 'cause they want to concentrate on their new CDP which will be officially launched on the CES. It must be an awesome player. I read already a review in a German magazine. Sad thing, it will be twice as expensive as the last record player.
Still Einstein is cooking more: in Munich they want to launch the mono version of the light in the dark. And then they are working on their own turntable made of a hightech material which has never been used so far in audio applications. But sorry I can not talk about further details. Also, when I visited Einstein's showroom last year I saw the prototype of a power conditioner. So these guys are quite busy in the moment also with their new distributorship of NuForce, Marten and Jorma.

Regards,
Jochen

A few snaps;
Initial impressions.



I will post a few more pictures in a while.

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2 woofers - 16" each - per side - disappear;
This is 'hoodini sytle' !!

It has to be experianced.

Cadence Dealer in Banlarole & Mumbai along with our 'moderator' must take the initiative to take our forum members to Pune for 1 day.
We should make it a 2 day - 1 night trip to Pune.
Visit the Cadence Listening room on 2 occasions & also meet the Pune forum members & dealers / distributors from Pune.

This Pantheon 25 needs an audition !!

Cadence Dealer in Banlarole & Mumbai along with our 'moderator' must take the initiative to take our forum members to Pune for 1 day. We should make it a 2 day - 1 night trip to Pune.

Please count me in !

bhagwan69 schrieb:

2 woofers - 16" each - per side - disappear; This is 'hoodini sytle' !! It has to be experianced. Cadence Dealer in Banlarole & Mumbai along with our 'moderator' must take the initiative to take our forum members to Pune for 1 day. We should make it a 2 day - 1 night trip to Pune. Visit the Cadence Listening room on 2 occasions & also meet the Pune forum members & dealers / distributors from Pune. This Pantheon 25 needs an audition !! :prost

Is the Cadence showroom in B'bay finally opened.
Where is it ?

Cheers

Is the Cadence showroom in B'bay finally opened. Where is it ?

It opened in November, 2007.

Fort; Opposite Central Library. Botawala Building, 4th floor.

But, no Pantheon 25 is there.
All low fi and mid fi Spendor + Cadence gear with Marantz is on demo there.
The 'real' thing is in Pune.

That is where one has to go !!

3 pairs of the Pantheon 25 have been reserved for India.
The 'prototype' will be sold - up to spec @ 'competative' prices. Any serious 'audiophile' that happens to have the 'space' may want to consider !!

All said, at least go and hear it.
The only cost is the fuel & stay [in Pune] + meals.
It is close by & will be worth the effort.

I can't join for the trip to Pune but would love to read a detailed post on the experience, so plz take your cameras along & also a supply of pencils & paper!

Kamal schrieb:

I can't join for the trip to Pune but would love to read a detailed post on the experience, so plz take your cameras along & also a supply of pencils & paper!

All that ahs been done in November, last year.
The pictures are on this forum.

It is not about a 'report'
It is about an experiance - it has to be had.

300 K US $ + worth of gear - well set up - in a good room.
That too in India - Pune - difficult to believe.
It is a 'free' chance. A must listen for all Indian want to be 'audiophiles' !!!

Mr. AS's room has never sounded so good in the past 10 + years I have gone there. I must have visited 20 + times if not more.

I request all to go and listen.

Manek - Please do take the iniciative & fix it up.
It will be worth it !! Trust me....

I'm very busy to rediscover my CD-collection now. But will keep you informed when I go to Pune. Regards, Jochen

Please do go !!!

bhagwan69 schrieb:

I'm very busy to rediscover my CD-collection now. But will keep you informed when I go to Pune. Regards, Jochen Please do go !!!

I know Bhagwan my visit is long overdue .... but simply do not have the time. A few hours of listening is not enough for such a speaker. So I would have to plan for a full day in Pune. Let's see, perhaps in June.

Jochen

Another picture I found;

Interesting........


• Power handling: 800W RMS
• Recommended amplifier power: 60W or more into 4 Ω for a tube output amplifier
• Recommended amplifier power: 80W or more into 4 Ω for a transistor amplifier
• Bandwidth: 8Hz—40,000Hz
• Frequency response: 18Hz—38,000Hz –3dB (with bass port contribution)
• Bass Q-factor: 0.38/0.5 (port closed/open)
• Midrange Q-factor: 0.5
• Distortion: 0.1% THD nominal, < 0.5% @90dB/1m, 30Hz—23000Hz
• Maximal sound pressure: 120dB
• Linear phase crossover, with all drivers wired in correct absolute phase.
• System acoustical slopes 24dB/octave Linkwitz-Riley
• Crossover transitions: 180Hz and 1200Hz
Impedance: 5 Ohms (min. 4 Ohms)
• Shipping weight: Bass cabinet 110kg/240lbs net; head unit 35kg/78lbs net
• Height 140cm 36inch
• Depth 60cm 24inch
• Width: 48cm 19inchColor schemes:



For the Pantheon, we created three exclusive color schemes.
• Option 1: a classy combination of lustrously deep black piano lacquer with aerospace-grade aluminum parts and the subtle use of real fine leather.
• Option 2: a combination of lustrously deep black piano lacquer with exclusive leather accents and real gold-plated cast-metal parts.
• Option 3: A high-tech combination of warm metallic carbon grey paint with matching metal parts.

Every Siltech Pantheon is hand-built and finished to exacting standards by the finest technicians and craftspeople. It is this extreme attention to detail that distinguishes the Siltech Pantheon even among statement efforts.

In our state-of-the-art clean room, highly trained craftspeople spray the enclosure panels with successive layers of Akzo-Nobel primer followed by two layers of high-gloss base coat and five layers of high-gloss transparent coat. Between each layer application, the structure dries at room temperature for 5-7 days.

“‘We check each newly painted dry surface by spraying on a thin contrasting test layer. This shows off the smallest of imperfections during polishing” explains Wim, Siltech’s master cabinet maker.

Enclosure
For our enclosures, Comsol™ optimized angled and dome-shaped multi-layer panels for minimal refraction (Siltech patent-pending) insure flat acoustical impedance to greatly improve driver performance. The twin-cabinet architecture guarantees perfect mechanical isolation and the constrained-layer composite panels add high damping and stiffness to transform each Pantheon into a Comsol-engineered energy-neutral cabinet (Siltech™ patent-pending ENC system)

Transducers
• 2 x 16-inch precision low-Q woofers
• 1 x 7-inch ultra-fast, Comsol-optimized low-Q midrange with patent-pending decoupled motor
• 1 x 19 inch ultra-fast electrostatic high-frequency driver with long-life self-powered power supply
All drivers can withstand very high input power without distortion. The tweeter array includes a 0-15° (+75° to +90° ISO) vertical tilt adjustment to optimize the sound balance for your preferred listening position.

Crossover
The substantial crossover is optimized for minimum parts density despite its 4th-order architecture. All coils are patented supersonic air-core inductors weighing up to 5 pounds each.

Binding posts
Heavy-duty Rhodium-plated WBT terminals.
Akzo-Nobel is a registered trademark of Akzo-Nobel NV. Siltech is a registered trademark of Siltech BV. Comsol, Comsol Multiphysics and Comsol Reaction Engineering Lab are registered trademarks of Comsol AB.

goolimangala schrieb:

bhagwan69 schrieb: I know Bhagwan my visit is long overdue .... but simply do not have the time. A few hours of listening is not enough for such a speaker. So I would have to plan for a full day in Pune. Let's see, perhaps in June. Jochen

Sir,

Stay for 1 night;
2 'listening sessions' are required.
It has to be a 2 day trip.

This is what I 'Manek' to fix up for the Mumbai / Pune Forum members. It is a 'must audition' speaker !!!

Thursday;

I will be going for a '3rd' listen on Thursday.

I shall keep all informed - how it pans out.

I have some other work in Pune & will club it with the trip.

So I would have to plan for a full day in Pune. Let's see, perhaps in June. Jochen

June just went by; Any chance of a listen ?

I will be off tom.

I will try and take some pictures & post.

The New Digital Front End is in place - P3 + D3 + G0 etc. There is also a new phono cable from Siltech that seems to have been installed. I look forward to the listening session - audition......

Went to Pune yesterday - 'switch it on' was with me;

We spend a few minutes - tea / coffee time in a 'new' listening room @ Cadence - Spendor + Helios + va1 + Siltech Cable + Crystal Cable. Pleasent set up.

Then we proceeded on to the 'main listening room'

This was a 'good experiance'
The set up was - perfect - lot of effort had gone into making the Siltech Pantheon sound 'up to the mark'
The entire 'chain' was 'right up there' with some of the best in Hi - Fi Audio that money can buy. This sure was an all out assault - no holes barred - attempt to recreat music !!!



A job rather well done.

This could easily be the 'best audio set up' I have personally auditioned in India for sure.



I have already enlisted the equipment that was being used in my earlier post - so I shall not get into it again.
Just 1 change the phone cable was changed from a vdH to Siltech G7 [brand new line just to be launched].

This was a 400/- K US $ set up [on a conservative basis] !

bhagwan69 schrieb:

Why didnt you label the man with the white mask...

privacy - sorry !

abhi.pani schrieb:

bhagwan69 schrieb: Why didnt you label the man with the white mask...

think of him as the indian zorro abhi