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LaScalaa
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#1 erstellt: 23. Aug 2007, 04:56
I'm looking for an upgrade of my system.

My present system includes Kef Q 5's, Rega brio and Cambridge 540 cdp.

Any suugestions, First I will start with speakers.


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G_S_Madhav
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#2 erstellt: 23. Aug 2007, 08:09
In order to help you better, please tell us about:

1> Your budget
2> Your music interests
3> Listening room dimensions
4> Whether you want to upgrade all three components or just the speakers?
LaScalaa
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#3 erstellt: 23. Aug 2007, 08:38
Oops sorry sir!

Budget is 70-80k
Music is Rock, country and soft rock
Room is 15*17
First is speaker and then I will go with amp and last is source(later cables)
abhi.pani
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#4 erstellt: 23. Aug 2007, 21:04

LaScalaa schrieb:
Oops sorry sir!

Budget is 70-80k
Music is Rock, country and soft rock
Room is 15*17
First is speaker and then I will go with amp and last is source(later cables)


The speaker that immediately comes to my mind is Dynaudio Audience72. For the price they rock.

If you have to look at other things these are the ones you can also look at:

1. Energy RC-70
2. Dali Ikon6
3. Dali Suite 2.8
4. Kef iQ9
bhagwan69
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#5 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:19
Hello !
Welcome to the Forum -

I would love to give you some suggestions, however @ 80 K, there is nothing you can buy that will improve on what you corrently have.

Please do stick with your current set up. It is nice.

If you are in a position to go to 200/- K, then try to upgrade. Changing gear for the same of change may not be a good idea.

Your budget for a speaker is about 40 K [out of the 70 - 80]. What can you buy @ that price ? I mean which speaker @ 40 to 50 K will 'smash' the KEF Q-5's ?

Even your CDP is a great player. P to P i.e. !!!


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abhi.pani
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#6 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:36

bhagwan69 schrieb:
Hello !
I mean which speaker @ 40 to 50 K will 'smash' the KEF Q-5's ?


I thought his budget for the speaker alone is 80k .
abhi.pani
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#7 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:36
And yes, Kef Q5 are very decent speakers except that its over priced in India IMO.
abhi.pani
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#8 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:37
BTW, Energy RC-70 is one superb value for money, but you need to listen to it.
Savyasaachi
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#9 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:41

abhi.pani schrieb:
And yes, Kef Q5 are very decent speakers
abhi.pani
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#10 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:47

Savyasaachi schrieb:

abhi.pani schrieb:
And yes, Kef Q5 are very decent speakers
:Y


Come lets meet at Profx and decide..
Savyasaachi
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#11 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:49
I think i have heard this speaker three times with three different people accompanying me..once with you, once with kalpesh, and once with rajesh...failed every single time
abhi.pani
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#12 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 04:51

Savyasaachi schrieb:
I think i have heard this speaker three times with three different people accompanying me..once with you, once with kalpesh, and once with rajesh...failed every single time


I know...
Lets meet once more . The speakers are now phased out, we can listen to other speakers, iQ5
stevieboy
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#13 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 05:28
you'd get far more value with bookshelves. just pick up an issue of whathi-fi, make a note of all the speakers put up a list here and everyone here will am sure have different opinions. so doing the rounds yourself will be better.

if you want to listen to viren's single driver speakers, floorstanders you're welcome to drop in. i listen to rock too. a bit of country, jazz, soft rock, blues.

i've taken his amp and heard it with the kef iq5s and to my ears his speakers are better.

you can listen to his valve amp too. the tone they produce is nothing like i've ever heard with a solid state so far. brilliant with guitaring. there's more emotion in the set up. other systems might have that extra treble or tighter bass but for sheer engagement... ah...

all IMO, etc...

regards


abhi the iq5 is better than iq9 in my opinion. any reason for recommending it? would like to know your opinion.
Krish
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#14 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 05:34

LaScalaa schrieb:
I'm looking for an upgrade of my system.

My present system includes Kef Q 5's, Rega brio and Cambridge 540 cdp.

Any suugestions, First I will start with speakers.


Methinks you have a system mismatch.If you want to stay with the amp, then you should look at speakers that work well with them.

Try Epos or even the Quad 11 or 12 bookshelves.

Cheers
K
LaScalaa
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#15 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 05:43

Methinks you have a system mismatch.If you want to stay with the amp, then you should look at speakers that work well with them.



You are right I picked up or rather smuggled Rega into India in assumption that it should work well with Q5 as it was doing good with Cambridge amp. It still is better with CA amp than Rega.
Arj
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#16 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 06:00

LaScalaa schrieb:
Oops sorry sir!

Budget is 70-80k
Music is Rock, country and soft rock
Room is 15*17
First is speaker and then I will go with amp and last is source(later cables)


la Scala, missed this thread out earlier !

your room i pretty spacious (Is it well damped with furniture ? ) hence you might prefer the extra bass a floorstander will give you but a bookshelf in that range may just about give you a better midrange.

YOur amp is pretty decent and so is you CDP hence for maximum bang for the buck you need to only upgrade the speakers,the rega and the cambridge can last you much more (Your next upgrade IMHO should be your cdp). you just need to make sure that your speaker synergise well with your amp and only option there is to Demo as much a you can. Also do check out the web and see other setups with a Rega Brio.

there are many choices in speakers in that range. I am not sure of the proac Tablette latest price, but that would be an excellent choice for your amp.

Cadence Diva/Arita+Stand also might not be a bad idea.(never heard it though)

then of course there are the others mentioned
Savyasaachi
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#17 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 06:03

Krish schrieb:

LaScalaa schrieb:
I'm looking for an upgrade of my system.

My present system includes Kef Q 5's, Rega brio and Cambridge 540 cdp.

Any suugestions, First I will start with speakers.


Methinks you have a system mismatch.If you want to stay with the amp, then you should look at speakers that work well with them.

Try Epos or even the Quad 11 or 12 bookshelves.

Cheers
K

There's some good advice...
LaScalaa
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#18 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 06:14

your room i pretty spacious (Is it well damped with furniture ? )


I use one corner where audio is placed. Dimensions are as under( not exact dimensions but for your ref.


17ft
---------------------
| left right|
15 ft|
|
| LaScala |
----------------------



I hope it's clear where speakers are left and right near wall and me 10 ft away. Yes there are carpets on wall, floor and thick curtains.


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Shahrukh
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#19 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 06:23

stevieboy schrieb:
the iq5 is better than iq9 in my opinion.


It is! It is!! It so is!!



Seriously though, Quad 12L would be a good bet considering you keep your electronics!!


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LaScalaa
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#20 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 06:27
I see Sabyasaachi has put his photo and also abhi.pani and many like Arj and Shahrukh. Let me know how do we do that.


[Beitrag von LaScalaa am 24. Aug 2007, 06:27 bearbeitet]
Savyasaachi
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#21 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 06:34

LaScalaa schrieb:
I see Sabyasaachi has put his photo and also abhi.pani and many like Arj and Shahrukh. Let me know how do we do that.



hahah...first off it is Savyasaachi and second..that's not Abhi
abhi.pani
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#22 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 07:10

stevieboy schrieb:

abhi the iq5 is better than iq9 in my opinion. any reason for recommending it? would like to know your opinion.


I havent heard the iQ5 yet..
I have heard the iQ9 once, right out of the box. Decent speakers but nothing extraordinary.


I see Sabyasaachi has put his photo and also abhi.pani and many like Arj and Shahrukh. Let me know how do we do that.


Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh...........its not me in that photo . They are the designer of the amp I am using
bobbybpl
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#23 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 07:23

abhi.pani schrieb:

stevieboy schrieb:

abhi the iq5 is better than iq9 in my opinion. any reason for recommending it? would like to know your opinion.


I havent heard the iQ5 yet..
I have heard the iQ9 once, right out of the box. Decent speakers but nothing extraordinary.


I see Sabyasaachi has put his photo and also abhi.pani and many like Arj and Shahrukh. Let me know how do we do that.


Aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh...........its not me in that photo . They are the designer of the amp I am using :prost
bobbybpl
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#24 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 07:24
Abhi bhai, sir ab to apni picture dal do
bhagwan69
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#25 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 07:25
Peter Thomson !!!
Plinius ?
Has he not left the company ? I do not know the current status, maybe S.S. [Sound Smiths] will know the current status.....
soulforged
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#26 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 08:25
Monitor Audio speakers are generally good for rock...try RS1. In bookshelves, one of the best rock spearkers is Totem Rainmaker though some find it a bit bright due to its metal tweeter.

Do consider these...
SNV
Stammgast
#27 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 08:52
If your budget is about 70k to 80k for the speakers, then i would strongly recommend the Dali Ikon 6 (floorstander) or the Cadence Arita (bookshelf) with the stands.

Kef has already launched the new IQ5se. IQ9 is a no good speaker (IMO) ofcourse.

Regards
SNV
Shahrukh
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#28 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 09:24

SNV schrieb:
Kef has already launched the new IQ5se.


Hmmm... I wonder if they have any upgrade "deal" for the owners of the non-SE version owners. Considering that they're almost priced the same!!
bhagwan69
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#29 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 10:46

soulforged schrieb:
Monitor Audio speakers are generally good for rock...try RS1. In bookshelves, one of the best rock spearkers is Totem Rainmaker though some find it a bit bright due to its metal tweeter.

Do consider these...


Superb Speaker - Lovely Suggestion.

I do not find the tweeter bright.

However, in a big room - a smallish speaker may or may not work. 255 sq. ft. in not a small room. But call for a demo from Audio People, listen to it & then take a call.
soulforged
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#30 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 10:57

bhagwan69 schrieb:
But call for a demo from Audio People, listen to it & then take a call.


Do Audio People carry Totem? I'd love to check out the Model 1
purnendu
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#31 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 11:28
Hi and Welcome,
What is it that you are dissatisfied with, or what would it be that you would like to improve upon. The music you have listed is fairly undemanding - I am sorry if that sounds condescending - but all the more reason you need to tell us what kind of improvements you are looking for. Is it bass that is lacking, is there too much of uncontrolled bass. Does the music get cluttered, or is there a low level listening constraint. Members are suggesting that the speakers are your weak link. They may well be right. Howevers KEF speakers are quite refined and should be OK for the music you mention. It may or may not be a good idea going in for smaller monitors, depending on what you are looking for.

On another note, I do believe that the the Rega has a decent phono stage. Have you ever heard a Turntable on your system?

purnendu
Jeeves
Stammgast
#32 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 12:03
What about PSB speakers? Their bugdet book shelf speakers (dont remember the model) has had a great review in Stereophile?Absolute Sound?
Someone told me they are available a La Kozy Mumbai.
bhagwan69
Inventar
#33 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 12:07

Jeeves schrieb:
Someone told me they are available a La Kozy Mumbai.


Sure they are available; @ La Kozy i.e.
The question is will they be 'better' thank the Kef's ?
I am not so sure.
Shahrukh
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#34 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 12:13
Two very different sound signatures, wouldn't you say??
Arj
Inventar
#35 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 12:14
The suggestion on Monitor audio is an excellent one to do some follow up on. intuitively it should be a good combination.. I liked the older Monitor audio series..could rock as well as sing.

I think they make a pretty good pair with most british amps belonging to "old school" in tonality and rega is definitely one.
soulforged
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#36 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 12:26

Jeeves schrieb:
What about PSB speakers? Their bugdet book shelf speakers (dont remember the model) has had a great review in Stereophile?Absolute Sound?
Someone told me they are available a La Kozy Mumbai.


Oh yeah! PSB rocks! and the Image T65 should be well within your budget.
Arj
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#37 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 12:37
hmmmthey are not relly easy to drive right ? they need decent power (not power hungry but neither SET types) hence match with a Rega Brio is IMHO not so easily assumed.
ani
Stammgast
#38 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 13:55
Hi La Scalaa

If you are looking at Monitor Audio, please audition their Gold Signature series, the RS though good may not be much of an upgrade from the KEF you own. I have personal experience with older Gold ref, they have very refined top end along with cleaner mid, the LF though leaner is of much higher pitch resolving when compared to RS series.

All this time I request you to keep in mind what your goal is?
what do you expect from your Rs80k ?

Regards
Ani
Shahrukh
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#39 erstellt: 24. Aug 2007, 14:41
I agree Ani. The MA Gold sig 10 (the standmount) is really nice. Plus that beutiful laquer finish. mmmmm!

A very non fatiguing speaker with a great deal of detail and coherency. Retailing for exactly 80k if I'm not mistaken!
bobbybpl
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#40 erstellt: 25. Aug 2007, 07:50

soulforged schrieb:

Jeeves schrieb:
What about PSB speakers? Their bugdet book shelf speakers (dont remember the model) has had a great review in Stereophile?Absolute Sound?
Someone told me they are available a La Kozy Mumbai.


Oh yeah! PSB rocks! and the Image T65 should be well within your budget.


I too have listened Psb at lakozy and they were fantastic at that price, dont remember the model no. but were the floor standers around 48k. Do check it.
Voodoo_CHild
Stammgast
#41 erstellt: 25. Aug 2007, 11:33

bobbybpl schrieb:

soulforged schrieb:

Jeeves schrieb:
What about PSB speakers? Their bugdet book shelf speakers (dont remember the model) has had a great review in Stereophile?Absolute Sound?
Someone told me they are available a La Kozy Mumbai.


Oh yeah! PSB rocks! and the Image T65 should be well within your budget.


I too have listened Psb at lakozy and they were fantastic at that price, dont remember the model no. but were the floor standers around 48k. Do check it.


You have probably listened to the Image T45 floorstanders and they are very good performers in that price range.
The 'budget bookshelves' which Jeeves has mentioned are the ones I own ...the Image B25 monitors
Manek
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#42 erstellt: 25. Aug 2007, 13:32
just heard te quad 11L active for 46K. Nice speakers though they were a bit forward in their presentation. Prefer the 11L passive with quad electronics by a small margin.

12L active available at 62K. Those should be good too. The 22L are going for a good price of 60K. You could try those. I did like the 21L a lot as well.

Manek.
Krish
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#43 erstellt: 27. Aug 2007, 06:14

LaScalaa schrieb:

Methinks you have a system mismatch.If you want to stay with the amp, then you should look at speakers that work well with them.



You are right I picked up or rather smuggled Rega into India in assumption that it should work well with Q5 as it was doing good with Cambridge amp. It still is better with CA amp than Rega.


Another thought.Given your choice of music,perhaps you should consider the Cambridge 540 A int amp.

Perhaps a far more economical solution, as against getting a new pair of speakers to match the Rega Brio.

Cheers
K
Arj
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#44 erstellt: 27. Aug 2007, 17:11

Manek schrieb:

12L active available at 62K. Those should be good too. The 22L are going for a good price of 60K. You could try those. I did like the 21L a lot as well.

Manek.



Now thats a good suggestion. if your friend is not the type to get addicted to this habit he may find his nirvana here ..of course he would still need to get a source and a good Pre
Shahrukh
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#45 erstellt: 28. Aug 2007, 06:33
Heard the active 12L with Manek. Not my cuppa!
Very unlike the passive Quads this sound is really "in-your-face!!"

But hey, if it floats your boat, why not. Actives at this price and with that beautiful laquer finish - not bad!


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buzzer
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#46 erstellt: 28. Aug 2007, 13:10

The 22L are going for a good price of 60K


Best suggestion and spend rest on good cables and music
Arj
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#47 erstellt: 28. Aug 2007, 15:43
You could try the totem hawk. there is a used one available for 1450 USD at singapore. might be just around 80K inclusive of Duty and Freight..

the best you can do with 80K frm the available choices IMHO. audionite sg is a very reliable dealer who do international shipping. and the owner is a very nice and dependable guy as well.

http://www.hifi.com.sg/2ndhand/2ndhand.asp
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