My Hi-fi experience in Bangalore

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#1 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 13:03
Folks, I've been a member of this forum for about 2-3 months now...stumbled across it through Google while searching for HT dealers in Bangalore. I purchased my system(Marantz, Acoustic Energy) about a month or so back, after much research(don't we all?) so thought I'd just post my experiences in the hope that some member can use bits/pieces from my experience to aid his/her own search.

<b>Phase 1: Surround Sound</b>

Lets face it...most people who decide to go in for a "good" music system, after years of wishing they had the money to do so, want to begin with a surround sound setup. The reasons may be many, ranging from advertising(how many high-end pure stereo ads have we seen?) to peer pressure(my friend just picked up a 7.1 surround setup!) to the Indian predisposition for VFM(for 25K if I can get 7 pieces of equipment then why the hell should I settle for only 3 pieces?). Suffice it to say that I started searching for surround in the usual places - Onkyo(above Casa Piccola on Cunnigham Road) followed by Jamo(close to Cunnigham Road) and Harman-Kardon(off Vittal Mallya Road) and ProFX(Barton Centre, MG Road).

Onkyo - the salesperson was courteous but all he did was tell me about the prices of the various equipment he had on display. No info on the differences b/w each or the pros/cons of surround vis-a-vis stereo or amplified ratings etc. Needless to say I didn't stick on for too long. FYI the sound from the floorstanders was just average...nowhere close to hi-fi.

Jamo - the salesperson(Nabeel) was pretty courteous, also knew the technical details of the stuff he had...but pretty clueless about other aspects of hi-fi. When I first went to Jamo I had no clue about audiophile terms like impedance ratings, sensitivity, crossovers etc...but like most self-respecting geeks/audiophiles I read up like crazy over the Internet. Thats when I realized that most Jamo floorstanders are rated at 4 ohms...and not many budget amps can drive that load at peaks. So I went back to Nabeel and asked him how come most of the Jamo speakers were rated at 4 ohms and what does he tell me, "Oh...thats not a problem. Because its *easier* for an amp to drive a 4 ohm speaker as compared to an 8 ohm one." Needless to say I was shocked, and disappointed with the knowledge of the salesperson at Jamo and effectively struck Jamo off my list. To be fair there were a few floorstanders in my range that sounded pretty decent...but nothing really out of the world.

Harman-Kardon - the person at HK was downright rude. A slightly bulky, dark guy who looked at me as though I was in the wrong place(and this when I was dressed in formals and a tie and all...God alone knows how he treats people in tees and sandals!). We listened to a couple of systems which were ridiculously overpriced and sounded horrible(the worst of the lot I'd heard till then). The salesperson claimed that HK systems were better because of their "high current" design and when I asked him to explain that he was lost...started giving me some mumbo-jumbo about how only HK has high-current etc. without going into the specifics. The rude attitude combined with the horrible systems quickly made me strike off HK from my list too.

ProFX - the salesperson was pretty courteous(forget his name...but he was a Tam/Christian I think) and explained his range to me. I saw Denon receivers and Polk/KEF speakers. Polk had some new speaker for around 30K which had something like 5-6 drivers...the sound was crap! Absolutely pathetic fidelity...a representation of the average American design...size over substance! The KEF Q series were nice...though priced outside my budget.

Phase II: Stereo

After my disappointing forays into HT I stumbled across HiFi forums and chanced upon a few dealers who were not so mainstream. I decided to visit dealers for Tannoy(some dudes in Jayanagar), Wharfedale(Gem Plaza, Infantry Rd.), Dali/AE(Absolute Phase, off Infantry Rd.) and B&W(Gem Plaza, Infantry Rd.)

Tannoy - crap. Period. I and my wife listened to a Cold Play track with heavy instrument background and everything just collapsed into a mess. The receiver was a Yamaha 7.1(forget the model being driven in pure-direct mode). Another friend who took the Tannoy demo also had the same opinion and when he asked the dealer why the sound was so bad guess what reply he got? "True audion enthusiasts understand and appreciate the sound quality of a Tannoy." What a load of BS...thats like saying only Michael Schumaker can enjoy driving a Ferrari! Anyway Tannoy/Yamaha was off too.

Wharfedale - we sat for 15 minutes in the guys shop while he was playing some Godawful Kannada film music on an HT setup to some prospective buyers. The sound was pathetic...bright, screechy. We just walked out quietly without even bothering to explain.

B&W - was priced over our budget...so didn't even listen. Not that the salespeople were of any help(guess they haven't heard of the concept of up selling a product!).

Absolute Phase - when Prithvi insisted on an appointment I initially thought it was a gimmick...but when I landed up at his place one evening I realized how different he was from the others I'd met. He sat down with me, asked what kind of music I listened to, how often I watched movies, how big my room was and so on. He told me that stereo was a better bet for me since my audio:video ratio was something like 90:10. I of course, in all my smartness, insisted on HT so Prithvi suggested that I listen to both HT and stereo and then make up my mind. He also asked me about the kind of music I listened to...and over a week or two understood the fact that both me and my wife were people who wanted warm, natural sounding under-stated speakers, ones which would provide hours of easy listening to regardless of genre.

Over the next 2-3 weeks I picked up different sets of equipment from him. First a Marantz 7.1 receiver(SR-4500) with Acoustic Energy Evo 3 floorstanders...and then a Marantz PM 7200 stereo amp with the same speakrs. By this time my wife was also a convert to stereo so both Prithvi and my wife were gently prodding me to give up HT. But nothing prepared me for the difference in sound b/w the Marantz a/v receiver and its stereo one.

Put simply, the PM 7200 simply blows away the 7.1 receiver, even in its pure direct mode. There is simply no comparison for the quality of sound. I was a convert to stereo within one day of having the trial PM7200!

I kept the trial pair for a week or so before telling Prithvi that I would keep them. He bundled in a pair of Finesse interconnects and Monster speaker cables in the bargain. We also bi-wired my AE floorstanders and spiked them later on for a better response. Has it made a difference? I'd say each person needs to judge by themselves.

In the process I've also become friends with Prithvi and he's giving me some fundaes on jazz(an interest area), car accessories and audio do's and don't's.

Phase III: Advanced Audiophilia...

Like all audiophiles I'm now figuring out ways to continually improve the sound from my system day-by-day. Picked up a pair of Finesse component cables for my movies(a *world* of difference compared to my earlier composites). Next in line is a Vertex audiophile servo stabilizer which I hope to follow with a Finesse audiophile power conditioner. I also want to invest in a better CD/DVD player to remove my current Philips one from the audio equation(sub-optimal source). Of course I'm in no rush to do all of this but would prefer to research/learn more and then purchase stuff.

I do realize that I've been pretty personal in this post...sometimes in the negative sense and sometimes in the positive. But thats the only way I could convey my hi-fi journey without making it sound dull and dry. My final advice to people who want a "good" system: find a serious dealer who's willing to understand your tastes/preferences/constraints and will be willing to let you sample equipment for a few days before buying it(in India its not too common though many dealers abroad offer the same)...because the one things that most people ignore in their search for hi-fi equipment is their own ears! Don't be taken in by jargon, marketing literature, peer reviews, dealer recommedations, Internet reviews etc. alone...your own ears should be the final port of call!
Arj
Inventar
#2 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 14:37

rohin schrieb:
FSo I went back to Nabeel and asked him how come most of the Jamo speakers were rated at 4 ohms and what does he tell me, "Oh...thats not a problem. Because its *easier* for an amp to drive a 4 ohm speaker as compared to an 8 ohm one."


Well,he is not right there, but not too off the mark either - 4 ohm does not necessarily mean tough to drive.. some 4 ohm speakers are lot easily driven by tubes than many 8 Ohm speakers !

In the end the nominal impedance, the min impedance, the sensitivity And the efficiency of the speakers come in to play

Eg a 86 db 8 ohms speaker like Harbeth is very easily driven by 10W tubes and so is a 86 dB 4 Ohms Totem Arro. But a 87db 4 Ohm Dynaudio is not so easily diriven and so on...

Revel M20s and also the BW 800 both in High 88 db sensitivities at 8 ohms need powerful amps to perform well..

Go figure
Sonic_Master
Stammgast
#3 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 14:38
wow its the same kind of experience that I had but I didnt go to much dealers. Just 3 of them. Well thats right no matter what kind of speakers you are going to buy " trust only your ears" Not even eyes when buying an highend equip....
As a highend speakers designer I can suggest you that...

best regards,
Sandeep
Sonic_Master
Stammgast
#4 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 14:43
well if you have over sized magnets and the magnet size is over damped.. then you need Very powerful amp coz heavier magnets need High current amplifiers like Rotel 380into 8ohms X 2 version and also Bryston amplifiers are good for high current...

I have an very heavy subwoofer which need about 80amps!!!!! of current at the load in order to drive that subwoofer... rated at 1200watts RMS these behemoths needs even big capacitors at our home powersupplies or else you have to spend 24/7 at the main switch to replace fuses
Prithvi
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#5 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 14:46
Dear Rohin,
Nice to see ur post on the forum. Happy that I could be of help & guide you in the correct way! You missed the LINN KAtans,:D Anyhow one day I know u will go in for them.

Good news is that the new ProAc Studio's and again the Linns will be available. Customs take too long to clear consignments.:cut

Rgds

Prithvi

Here's wishing you both many hours of happy listening! May the "PURE STEREO" tribe increase!!!
abhi.pani
Inventar
#6 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 15:02
Hi Rohin,
Great to know that you have made a right decission at the end...Both the components you have selected i.e AE+Marantz PM7200 are great products.

But just had a itch to tell you that you have rejected the Jamo and the Wharfdale for a very WRONG REASON.

You should have auditioned them well before rejecting them. A sales guy may stumble at some point but that should not be a criteria to reject a genuine product. Similarly, the Wharfdale guy might be demonstrating some crapy stuffs to other customers but that should not lead you to think that Wharfdales are crap. Since you have been going through this forum since last 2-3 months so you must be knowing the popularity of Diamond 8.4 here.


Anyway you are fortunate enough to meet a guy like Prithvi who could lead you to your dream destination safely.....so enjoy and let us know more.
BTW did you try the NAD320bee amp ??
benkenobi
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#7 erstellt: 10. Mai 2005, 15:20
Hey guys,
congrats on joining the stereo community.
great choices and pray daily that u have a audio enthusiat for a wife.
coming to ur comments on the different dealers. i will agree with u on all counts except the wharfedale one and Jamo(have never heard one).
but i have been to all the other showrooms and auditioned pretty much every speaker that i fancied.
u really ahould have given a closer listen to the wharfedale diamond 8.4 which is 10k less than the AE.
but u made a choice but ur comments could be misleading. u clearly did not eevn take a demo for 5 minutes(if i go by ur words) which is the worst thing u can do.

personally for me, i don't think i will be buying anymore commercial models except for mayone one which may capture my heart.
from now on i will indulge myself in building my own speakers to get that extra sense of pride and satisfaction and purely cause i have fun when i see and hread people discussing about their conceptions. besides, i will be in total control while designing the speakers to my taste and one other thing is that they will be exclusivve and not a 'run of the mill' kinds that u and i presently have.
Cheers,
Ben
Chers,
Ben
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#8 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 07:45
rohin wrote :


Wharfedale - we sat for 15 minutes in the guys shop while he was playing some Godawful Kannada film music on an HT setup to some prospective buyers. The sound was pathetic...bright, screechy. We just walked out quietly without even bothering to explain.


Playing kannada music might be awful for you but it's the prefernece of customer who was then auditioning at Total sound. Music is music and it's the listener who sets up the prefernces in order of rock, metal,pop.So never ever feel if a person listens to Kannada or Hindi his taste is bad.Music is subjective and your taste might seem awful to others. So always listen first woth your music than jumping into conclusions. It's good that you bought the equipment with proper guidance and happy with it.
benkenobi
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#9 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 08:04
Exactly. everything in the world is subjective. every person has an opinion and wants evryone else to adher by it or atleast listen to it while dismissing everyone else's views.
u claiming the kannada music as godawful is actulally very repulsive to me(cause am a kannadiga and my father is a kannada lecturer) but i am tolerant to this kind of spur of the moment comments cause i have a matured sense in music.
to tell u the truth i find Jazz music to be very boring and without soul. but hey,that's me. but i hold great respect for the people who create jazzz and to those who listen to them.
different genres of music have their own charm and appeal to certain people but u should be humane enought to understand this very basic of human tratis which is what makes our race so unique.
Cheers,
Ben
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#10 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 08:17
very true benks......I value a person the way he listens to music and not the music he listens to...yup I have not heard Jazz to a greater extent but I too feel they are boring..my wife feels the metal numbers I play is nerve wrecking and the slow romantic numbers she listens to never puts me in a romantic mood but I start snoring..... .I have friends who enjoy old P.B Srinivas melodies and I can't rule em out that they don't know music. No wonder we have so many genres of music...or else life would be boring...all listeners want diffrent music for diffrent occasions..can't play Kurt Gobain on your childs birthday or entertain your in laws with usher
Arj
Inventar
#11 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 09:04
I would rate the Quality of the system by the way it can play bad recordings as well ..hence I am not a strong advocate of accuracy in systems
Practically speaking, all indian recrodings are pretty pathetic, hence a resolving system would be waste.

On of the means i usually evaluate a system is by playing old Lata/asha songs..if they sound screetchy ( A Thiel base system actually did !) then it fails

Hence the reason you may have given of it being Kannada music may not be appropriate, but the fact you walked out since the music sounded Godawful is appropriate.
( BTW I just got a wonderful Kannada cd of a child singing some classical verses and was Blown away by the quality of his voice..but since it is a ripped cd dont know either the song name or the singer and since i do not know a word of kannada i dont understand it either..but no doubts on the fact if its beauty )
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#12 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 09:41
Arj wrote :


I would rate the Quality of the system by the way it can play bad recordings as well



Hence the reason you may have given of it being Kannada music may not be appropriate, but the fact you walked out since the music sounded Godawful is appropriate.





I feel it's better to evaluate any stuff with your music than what's being played.If he left the place coz the music was Godawful is not right coz all Regional Indian cd's are pathetic and bright.he should've waited for his turn of audition and listened with his kinda music...It's like judging how fast a car can accelerate by standing at a signal than actually test driving it...chances are a 60 year old lady ( with heavy make up of course )might be driving a Mondeo and you conclude Mondeo is not fast enough for you......and a 18 year old zips in his Zen and lo a conclusion is drawn Zen is faster than Mondeo.......


I feel Rohin has bought the equipments with the dealer given more importance than the equipment itself.Correct me if I'm wrong...Unarguably Prithvi offers best professional help and you have the best deal...but your impression about dark,fat guy goes into your brain first than the HK is quite surprising...you are giving more importance to the sales guy than the equpiment....c'mon if you have to buy say-television don't expect the sales guy to give you all the tech gyan.....it's for you to find out..and decide by taking a proper demo....

Any ways I like Mondeo...so cheers

Rohin wrote :



Tannoy - crap. Period. I and my wife listened to a Cold Play track with heavy instrument background and everything just collapsed into a mess. The receiver was a Yamaha 7.1(forget the model being driven in pure-direct mode). Another friend who took the Tannoy demo also had the same opinion and when he asked the dealer why the sound was so bad


There you audition stuff with an AVR and drew conclusions..i don't know about Tannoy's but in general even proper stereo amps not matched properly to speakers give awful sound.....AVR's are eons behind( bar exceptions)

Abhi Pani wrote :


Similarly, the Wharfdale guy might be demonstrating some crapy stuffs to other customers but that should not lead you to think that Wharfdales are crap.


Again guys if you don't like it ignore it....I think this only happens in bangalore where any one can call the regional language Godawful..crap etc etc....Dare people do the same in Cochin or chennai or mumbai or kolkata or hydreabad about the local languages...c'mon guys enjoy the freedom and don't rub people the wrong way....I'm not rubbed nor I'm a kannadiga nor I'm for kannada music .....generally respect each one and all including their tastes..



cheers.....buuurrrppppppp


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SUB_BOSS
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#13 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 10:26
Any ways Rohin congrats on your purchase and keep us informed about your placement etc etc....i'm sure AP will offer you lotsa help with regards to placement techs and other fundas....

Prithvi wrote :


Here's wishing you both many hours of happy listening! May the "PURE STEREO" tribe increase!!!


it's increasing buddy....but takes time
rohin
Neuling
#14 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 15:22
Have just been reading some of the responses...as is wont in forums I notice that many people have hooked onto various tangents and given their opinion. A few clarifications from my side are hence in order:

1. Why did I not try out everything? Simply because I do not have unlimited time, energy or enthusiasm to spend 6 months auditioning every single possible piece of hi-fi equipment available in Bangalore. If our search for a good system can be viewed a journey from point "A"(no idea what to buy) to point "B"(bought a system that I like and enjoy)...then there are infinite ways to reach from point "A" to "B". Obviously each of us will want to take a different route(different brands, different price ranges, different components etc.)...but the one thing that matters in the end is if you're satisfied with point "B". If you are, then it doesn't matter how many steps you took to get there.

2. Why is Kannada music 'Godawful'? I think I should have suffixed "film" to it...and it should have read "Godawful Kannada film music". Yes, now some of you will say that I shouldn't generalize and say that all Kannada film music is bad...which I don't. All I'm saying is that the Kannada film music that was playing in the Wharfedale shop that day was Godawful. It could have been Godawful boy-band music or Godawful Hindi film music or Godawful assembly-line rock music or Godawful Malayalam film music...but that day it happened to be Godawful Kannada film music. How many of you would have found fault at me had I said Godawful Britney Spears instead? I don't see any reason to be defensive about my tastes...neither do I see the need to apologize to everyone who likes Bristney Spears, Boyzone, Aqua, Bappi Lahiri, Kumar Sanu and the thousands of third-rate film music churned out through films in various states in India. I don't like them, if you do then good for you. And if you don't happen to like my kind of music, then I'm fine with that too.

3. Why did I let salespeople get in the way? Simple, because the as a customer I am put off by rude behaviour. I find no reason to stick around a dealer/shop/salesperson even when he/she is rude especially when there are so many products in the marketplace. The salesperson's loss is another one's gain...thats the way commerce works.

4. Why did I not try out all permutations and combinations of recivers/amplifiers and speakers? Same as answer 1...because I didn't have all the time in the world for this. My aim was to arrive at a hi-fi setup that I could afford/would enjoy...not sampling all the possible combinations in Bangalore city. To some of you it may sound "sub-optimal", but maybe you have more time than me on your hands then.

P.S. Thanks all for the feedback...I'm quite happy with my hi-fi setup and am glad that I met Prithvi when I did. I would blindly recommend him to any friend who wants to go in for a new setup.
benkenobi
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#15 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 15:45
Let me get one thing straight.
the way u originally put it was very wrong and misleading.
that still does'nt answer my question as to why u did not wait for ur turn to take a proper demo at the wharfedale showroom.
u are simply subjugating and dismidssing that by saying that u did not have time and shit like that especially when the wharfedals are strong contenders and could give the AE evo 3 that u bought a run for the money(literally).
nonetheless , u may have eventually gone for the AE evo3.heck like i care.
u may still say that u were not interested and did not have the time to check out the wharfedale.
then, i think all the so called'surveys' u have done has been superficial and based on all the wrong reasons.u should be glad though that u met Prithvi before making a stupid mistake.

be careful what u say.
many people can interpret it in many ways.you may not see i-i on the things i have commented on. i am not saying that what i have posted all this while makes a lot of sense or anytihng. it may not to u. hell, i don't care.
There are a few more flaws ion ur staements which i would have liked to take a shot at. maybe someone else will point it out.

and dont' sign off saying that u did not have time. that's the lamest excuse anyone can give. it certainly did not seem like u did not have time when u went arnd town auditioning every brand that was available.
neway, like u said ur happy so what do i care. enjoy.
Cheers,
Ben


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abhi.pani
Inventar
#16 erstellt: 11. Mai 2005, 15:47
Hi Rohin...
Cmon man cool down. There would not be a single person on this forum who would underrate your system.
As I said you have fortunately got very good products in the whole bargain....credit still goes to Prithvi I guess !!!

But the responses to your thread are not insane either.

Even I felt that you missed out few good products in your journey, not because of lack of time but because of your decission of not evaluating them.

The wharfdale guy is a very decent person and you should have waited for your turn to evaluate wharfdale with your own CDs. Wharfdales are GOOD.

Even I suggest the same with Jamo. It is more important to evaluate the speakers by your ears than by the Salesguy's guidance or knowledge. He might have tried to impress you with a wrong piece of info but then that does not call for a BAN on the product as genuine as Jamo !!

A rude or a misbehaviour obviously cannot be tolerated.

I am suggesting you this only for your future deals. The current setup you have is anyway fabulous.

Enjoy and keep us posted.
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#17 erstellt: 12. Mai 2005, 07:29
Hi,

I don't tolerate two things from a dealer :

1.Rude behaviour.
2.Being too pushy about the sale before the audition and never ever lets me listen to stuff enough to draw conclusions.

Rohin wrote :


4. Why did I not try out all permutations and combinations of recivers/amplifiers and speakers? Same as answer 1...because I didn't have all the time in the world for this. My aim was to arrive at a hi-fi setup that I could afford/would enjoy...not sampling all the possible combinations in Bangalore city. To some of you it may sound "sub-optimal", but maybe you have more time than me on your hands then.


If looking for a proper Hifi to suit your taste is time consuming then nobody here has time too so don't ever think you are only busiest chap here..and expect dealers to get home stuff for you to audition .I beleive in looking for a system which will give me my kind of sound no matter where evre it is and who ever the dealer is...as after sales service means nothing to asses here..so no point in looking for a genuine dealer or a grey market dealer.You seem to have lost on lot of good brands.....but as others quoted you are lucky to be with Prithvi and you could get the right combo( I'm sure he would 've suggested the best bang for buck)...C'mon man nobody here atleast in bangalore sells hifi with any other motive than money...except few.So don't get put off by people if they play Goddamn music or they are rude...as trying to audition stuff is like crime here and I know how it feels when your better half accompanies you.During my one and half months audition for amps I have come across and discovered that most facts are "true from far but far from true".


How many of you would have found fault at me had I said Godawful Britney Spears instead? I don't see any reason to be defensive about my tastes...neither do I see the need to apologize to everyone who likes Bristney Spears, Boyzone, Aqua, Bappi Lahiri, Kumar Sanu and the thousands of third-rate film music churned out through films in various states in India. I don't like them, if you do then good for you. And if you don't happen to like my kind of music, then I'm fine with that too.


people would hardly get offended if you mentioned goddamn britney or other crap...but since many members are kannadigas here you should've been lil careful before generalising.I'm not a kannadiga nor do i fancy kannada music...but I respect the local culture. I don't know how many could've done this if he was in Cochin and spoke loose.


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benkenobi
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#18 erstellt: 12. Mai 2005, 07:33
well said.
could'nt have put it better myself.
soundspy
Neuling
#19 erstellt: 15. Mai 2005, 07:38
Hi Rohin,

Congrats you bought the system you liked atlast. Happy listening as every one have wished you.

You are rubbing on the wrong side of the lamp. You need to have the bad guts to say godawful on the language which have great traditional poets and singers who are respected everyday in life. And you had been too unsportive to say you did not spend more than 15 mins in the wharfedale showroom at Gem Plaza. I had seen this guy giving me the best of the choices of music and the patience of the whole world to make me understand on the product. His only attitude which I liked was he gives careful attention, one at a time, to each and every walk in there. This was my experience when ever I have visited him last 3 months. Insted of complaining on the so called "crap products" like Tanoy and "godawaful" music in the Wharfedale, You should have carried your own cd which playes heavenly music which could keep you in the highest spirits.

Even though you have bought the system of your liking, go around to the places you are dissapointed and check out what you have not got especially the Tannoy and the Wharfedale, since I am caught up between these two myself.
Arj
Inventar
#20 erstellt: 15. Mai 2005, 18:49
Which Tannoys are you looking at ?
Heard the Eyris 3 bookshelf and rather liked it..Goes very well with low powered amps. could do with a fleshier Bass though !
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#21 erstellt: 19. Mai 2005, 13:42
Hi,

waiting for some replies....may be some use this forum just to boast their busy schedules and their wise decisions taken within their limited time. If the original author of this post has no patience to wait for 5 mins at a showroom why would he put down a post so huge maybe used a chunk of premium time of his...and first of all why post here if there is intention to come back.This is crazy is all I can conclude.
SUB_BOSS
Gesperrt
#22 erstellt: 23. Jun 2005, 07:34
There you see no replies again..it seems this guy had to put across something very strong against the members, so he logs in ,puts BS and buggers off......

Well here my dear friend The point is not worth arguing with some as*h*le like you that probably would get his as* r*ped if he challenged someone anywhere outside the internet. So stick to making insulting comments to people you don't have to really face.
One day you will wake up and realize you are just a punk or junk that initites or picks up fights on the internet cause that is the only place you can get away with such rot.You should learn to agree to disagree and not insult someone when you have a difference in opinion. I can't stand sissies like you that make smart replies for no apparent reason other than to discuss, cause nobody can beat you down via the internet.

left anything unsaid..here's more to all others.... ..boouurrrppppppp


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jsa_ind
Stammgast
#23 erstellt: 23. Jun 2005, 07:51
Dear Sub_Boss,

Careful!! Like me you will be threatened to be taken to court or shot in the head....you are hurting business interests !!

Sometime when I read those mails I cannot help but have a heartily laugh at the insecurity some people have

Like you said, instead of wanting to debate on the forum, they either disappear or turn into a cry baby until the posts which they are uncomfortable with is removed or edited !!

Regards,

Junia.
SUB_BOSS
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#24 erstellt: 23. Jun 2005, 07:55
dear Junia,

Lets stick to what we are as the people fail to face us or understand our good intentions it's time to unzip and fire at them...
jsa_ind
Stammgast
#25 erstellt: 23. Jun 2005, 08:08
Amen !!!
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