good old amps.

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muhmaku
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#1 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 02:41

Hi i'm considering buying some vintage hi-fi for my father as a birthday present and exept activ speakers set i think about passive one, what amps and speakers could you recommend?

I have Denon PMA-535R amp, Denon DCD-635 CD player and the strongest point of this set i think - ALR Jordan Entry 5M speakers. Looking for somethink with simmilar or better sound quality.... Of course vintage sounds different but...

How abou those amps - any worth attention?

YAMAHA A-760 SANKEN
YAMAHA A-450
REVOX A-50
LUXMAN L-190
ROTEL RX-603
ROTEL RA 1000
SANSUI A 60
SONY TA-1150
NIKKO TRM-750
GRUNDIG SV 2000
GRUNDIG V 30
PHILIPS 4312
MARANTZ PM-250
MARANTZ PM-230
MARANTZ 2238
DENON PMA-250
DENON PMA-300V
AKAI AM-U11
AKAI AM-2250
ONKYO A 5000
ONKYO INTEGRA A-8017
HA-M2 MKII
Hitach HA-1800
TECHNICS SU-V2A
TECHNICS SU-V5
TECHNICS SU-V60
PIONEER SA-710
PIONEER SA-5300
DUAL CV-1400
EAGLE A7600
STRATO A-9009
SABA VS 2080
AKAI AM-U11

Preamps:
PHILIPS AF-280
GRUNDIG XV 7500
GRUNDIG MXV100

Some speakers:

BOSE CAPELLA
BOSE Studiocraft 300 ST
GRUNDIG HI-FI ct 250 box
GRUNDIG SUPER BOX-1500 HIFI
Grundig Box M600
GRUNDIG SM 2000
B&O Beovox S75
B&O BEOVOX 2200
B&O BEOVOX 1702
B&O BEOVOX 2600
JAMO E 410
JAMO J-72
TELEFUNKEN HB-301
WHARFEDALE Shelton XP2
WHARFEDALE DENTON 3
PHILIPS AK 252

I should add that these would be used with some CD Player....

Thank you for any reply...

DOMINO

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muhmaku
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#2 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 09:10

've just spotted two others:

Toshiba SB-230 - nice looking, almost for free, but wouldn't it be wasting space - even for curiosity...?

Wangine WPA 600 pro + WVQ 600PRO - ?????????

domino

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MAC666
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#3 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 09:37

Missing Kenwood in your List

The Question is, what Time and Money you wanna spend...

Erm, the Bose Studiocraft 300 ST are not the best Choice, I've got them here and they are a little bit hard at the Tweeters and not crafted very solid...

And sorry for my bad english...

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muhmaku
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#4 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 11:12

Not a fortune - but it must sound really good - i have give you my actual equipment so everything would be compared with those i have.

TIME is not as important as final result.... (it may be even next year if i had look for sth rare....)

Just what is generally recommende or what models do you prefer... or what fro my list is good or crap and junk...

by the way what about HARMON KARDAN A 402???
looks cool...

Domino

muhmaku
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#5 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 11:51

how about Sansui AU-9900 or AU-719?

is the second one any good?

muhmaku
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#6 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 12:56

another comes:

ONKYO A-7

does anybody knows any of these amplifiers?

torbi
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#7 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 13:12

hi,

the best vintage amp (solid state) i have ever heard is an early model by marantz, the 1200. sounds very "vintage", like a big tube amp. imho the sonics are excellent, i dropped it because i got my hands on a rare old fisher tube amp.

lots of controls, excellent phono stage, very heavy and solid. still made in usa. above all, looks great to me.

muhmaku
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#8 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 13:44

[b]Harman/Kardon PM 650 or PM 665 ...........???

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aileena
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#9 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 14:31

The two Sansuis you have mentioned are fine Amps. The 9900 is the better one. What's about Kenwood? KA 9100, KA 907, KA 600 - rae, expensive and extraordinary good. You should also consider Accuphase.

muhmaku
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#10 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 16:02

THX aileena.....

Gelscht
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#11 erstellt: 04. Sep 2006, 21:48

The Grundig SV2000 is a nice one - both in visual effect and in sound.

But you should know, that its loudness-function boosts the bass frequencies quite a lot.

Greetings
Matthias

Yorck
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#12 erstellt: 05. Sep 2006, 18:44

Hi,
all those amps above are fine performers,
each single one has its "own voice" and very special sonics.
But why not choose something unusual... ?

Lots of listeners in the world of audio forget
the great transistor amplifiers made by Kücke & Co in Wuppertal during the 80s and the excellent
Klein und Hummel transistor monoblocks and pres, intended for pure studio use...
The (rarer) Telewatt consumer solid state amplifiers made from 1967-1982, manufactured in Stuttgart by Saba and Klein und Hummel themselves (with real studio technology but simplified for most demanding consumer listeners) are also a real first class choice...you wont find better amps for the money...

If japanese audio is prefered
try Nikko Alpha and Beta (Pre and power amp), those are silk sweet, still very powerfull sounding amps from the mid 70s.. The earlier (70s) versions are the best...

If US solid state audio is preferred, try the huge Transistor amplifiers by HH Scott...
There was also a Scott "Alpha" and "Beta" series Pre and Power amp-just amazing linear sounding amps...

Best regards
Yorck

muhmaku
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#13 erstellt: 05. Sep 2006, 18:55

I suppose Nikko TRM-750 is not up to that standard..???
That Scott i was asking about?
And i curios about Onkyo A 5000.

I'm also considering REVOX A-50, SABA VS 2080 and that mysterious AIMOR OA-4100.

What do you think about them...?

D

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tommyknocker
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#14 erstellt: 05. Sep 2006, 20:39

Hi,
the saba is actually a Sanyo(as far as i know), and quite cheap. The 2160 or the MI 215/212 should be the better choice.

Perhaps you should do a closer choice of your favourite equipment ... (i - and i´m sure not only me - am losing the overview about what to advise or not)

Tommy

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muhmaku
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#15 erstellt: 06. Sep 2006, 13:52

Revox A-50 VS Harman/Kardon A 402

Ok, i've decided to buy as a my first trully vintage amp - as a "starter" - one of those two.... Price is almost the same - so what is your recomendation?
(H/K 665 wouls be nice but it's little to expensive at the moment... as for my father present Grundug XV 7500 with AktivBox'es seems a good choice...)

p.s. anyone heard of Basf D-6510 Amp and preamp D-6530- some not very close friend of mine wants to get rid of them...)

Domino:)

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aileena
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#16 erstellt: 06. Sep 2006, 16:20

I personally would prefer the HK, but also the Revox isn't a bad choice.

muhmaku
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#17 erstellt: 06. Sep 2006, 16:57

So, question of personal taste rather than difference in "quality"...?

aileena
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#18 erstellt: 06. Sep 2006, 18:49

I would say. Moreover it is much more easier to get spare parts and service for the Revox - as still for the big Tapedecks.